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[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by deecee

The second one...eh not so much. Calling that in college won't get you many games.

Do you make this statement based upon your personal experience from all of the college games that you've officiated?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Do you make this statement based upon your personal experience from all of the college games that you've officiated?

From the college camps Ive gone to and made these calls and been told the exact same thing. Being reamed out for "making a 50/50 call that doesn't matter a lick in middle school and in college has way more riding on it" ya. Go ahead make this call. Even I, with all my high school experience, think is borderline pushing it will tell you it won't win you squat.

[canuckrefguy]

deecee's right, to a certain extent.

I've seen officials get nailed by evaluators for calling defensive fouls in these situations.

Let's say the elbow never gets thrown, and the official calls a foul on #24 - how many people would be here saying he was too quick on the whistle?

BTW - good offensive call, but not sure that qualifies as "flagrant". Definitely some embellishment by the defender, though.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by deecee

From the college camps Ive gone to and made these calls and been told the exact same thing. Being reamed out for "making a 50/50 call that doesn't matter a lick in middle school and in college has way more riding on it" ya. Go ahead make this call. Even I, with all my high school experience, think is borderline pushing it will tell you it won't win you squat.

After reading a handful of your posts from the past several days I was thinking that you had finally started to mature, but clearly that isn't the case. You are still popping off like a 16 year-old.
You are ticked because you tried to tell someone how it is at a level that you've never worked and someone else called you on that. In the future, stick to giving advice about what you know.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

After reading a handful of your posts from the past several days I was thinking that you had finally started to mature, but clearly that isn't the case. You are still popping off like a 16 year-old.
You are ticked because you tried to tell someone how it is at a level that you've never worked and someone else called you on that. In the future, stick to giving advice about what you know.

Nevada, I could care less about what you think. Tell that to the D1 evaluators that chewed me out over such 50/50 calls. Im not arguing the one that was called. I was arguing the the borderline not so offensive call in the beginning of the trap.

When you get an evaluator tell you in these situations the last thing they want to do is rest their hat on a 50/50 call especially when they are just starting off. Well there is reality, and there is wishful thinking. In the future, stick to giving advice about your gummy bears and gum drops.

[JRutledge]

Handchecking? Really?

I do not have anything but a FF1 for the offensive player. No RSBQ was affected by the contact IMO. And I have been to camps and worked college games. That to me is just part of basketball in a trap. If anything maybe you could suggest that you could call a foul on the arms early, but that would be a stretch IMO too. And I feel that way whether it is high school, college or middle school game other than the FF1 classification of course.

Peace

[DLH17]

Super slo mo seems to reveal there may not have been any contact by the offensive player! In fact, there seems to be a little bit o' flop committed by the defender that goes down.

Now, back to actual game speed. Yes, there was contact above the shoulders with an elbow.

edit: not a real good decision to inbound the ball to the corner where the D can set up an easy trap, either. some boneheaded coaching and/or execution there on offense too.