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MD Longhorn Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:19pm

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Originally Posted by Moosie74 (Post 861382)
I know our DA would no complaint this in a heartbeat.

He might. Probably would.

However, follow the sequence with an actual fight 2 days later. File no complaint, and you just have a fight. File a complaint and you have premeditation.

Also - if you file a complaint, the police are likely to at least talk to him ... you might be saving the next official from having a similar situation. Or if they get repeated complaints on the same guy...

Report it.

deecee Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:24pm

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Originally Posted by PG_Ref (Post 861386)
Associating it back to basketball ... should you call a foul on a player before the foul is committed?

The potential severity of what may happen are 2 different things, but yes the underlying idea is the same.

bob jenkins Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:26pm

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Originally Posted by PG_Ref (Post 861386)
Associating it back to basketball ... should you call a foul on a player before the foul is committed?

IANAL nor a LEO, but I think the correct analogy would be:

Would you call a foul before contact? And, the answer is yes, if it's a non-contact T.

In the other case, the threat *can* be a crime.

PG_Ref Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:31pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 861390)
Would you call a foul before contact? And, the answer is yes, if it's a non-contact T.

I agree. I was only focusing on the "until someone actually does something" part of the statement.

Adam Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:44pm

A physical threat can be considered assault, especially if there's a legitimate reason to believe it. He had to be physically restrained by other players. I believe it.

Edit: I'm not a lawyer, but that's my understanding. Either way, no harm comes from filing.

maven Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:57pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 861395)
A physical threat can be considered assault, especially if there's a legitimate reason to believe it. He had to be physically restrained by other players. I believe it.

Edit: I'm not a lawyer, but that's my understanding. Either way, no harm comes from filing.

Adam, 'assault' is defined by state law, and can vary from state to state.

In my state, a threat can constitute assault if certain conditions are met.

Adam Thu Nov 08, 2012 01:01pm

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Originally Posted by maven (Post 861398)
Adam, 'assault' is defined by state law, and can vary from state to state.

In my state, a threat can constitute assault if certain conditions are met.

Which is why I said "can", like most criminal terms, it varies by jurisdiction.

As for the juggler's jurisdiction, I have no idea what the Canadian ruling is.


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