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#48) During a timeout or before any extra period, the bench area has different dimensions than it does during other times in the game.
a.True
b.False

I'd like to believe its true since the bench area extends to the nearer lane line on TOs & they certainly cant be on the court during live play.

reference? (I agree that they can be to the lane line during TO's, I'm just not convinced that it's still called the "bench area" -- especially since the term "bench area" is used in the definition of where the team can be).

and, what happened to SWMOZebra's post?

Books in the car :(

Recant??

the answer is true, bench area in this case is a descriptive term rather than a definition

NCAA Rulebook can be found online. I have the rulebook and casebook on my phone and computer....just in case I have to call my assignor about a jacket getting tossed :D

From reading this, I see that the bench area is extended during timeouts.

So, you'd have true. I can see that as being possible.

Another way to read it is that the "TO area" includes the bench area plus some portion of the court. Here, the answer to the test question would be false.

So we all know where the players / teams can be at different points. But, we (or at least I) don't know what they're really asking in the question.

Oh well, there's at least one in every test.

The only reason why I would stick with the true answer is that the dimensions as to what the area the team can be in during a timeout is directly under the Section "Bench Area." If they wanted to call it the "TO area," I'm under the assumption that they would have two seperate sections in the book -- Bench Area and TO Area. However, both of these areas fall under "Bench Area" in the book, so I'll read it as that.

Bottom line, when I first read the question, I thought "true." I'll stick with my gut.

And I'd have false. Art 1 specifically defines the "Bench Area" and uses the term. "The Bench Area shall be formed..." Art 2, which is under the heading of Bench Area, is explaining a time when players are not restricted to the Bench Area, but rather to a larger area, an "imaginary rectangle formed by...". This article is not redefining "bench area".

I've got "true"

-Josh

why are you making this so complicated. The rule states BENCH AREA and the 2 definitions of this area.

one definition is what the bench area is during game play and the other definition is what the bench area is during a TO.

That would be a lot clearer if Article 2 contained some phrase akin to "the bench area shall be formed" as they do in Article 1 and did not self-reference the bench area.

so the omission of the word OR is causing the stress?

I have no stress over this... ease up, Francis. :)

The reason it's a concern is that there's a test question on it... and the answer is certainly not clear-cut.

What I meant was that the logic that ART 1 and 2 are somehow is very thin at best. The way I read it is that you have two different instances of how the bench area are defined.

It's how a logical data set or rules would be organized. In this case Art 1 and 2 both refer to BENCH AREA as that is the specific header. I would read that as what they are and not think that much more.

I think the point is that what you just said is a completely reasonable way to look at it, which gives you one answer.

Then there's another completely reasonable way to look at it (Art 1 specifically says "Bench Area"; Art 2 describes the "invisible area" used at certain times... to me, describing a time where the "Bench Area" is not used) which leads to the opposite answer.

I think it's also why 5-13(?) doesn't just say "During a TO, a team shall be in its Bench Area" and instead repeats the description of the area.

Hmm, I see your frustration now, Bob. Thanks for making me second guess myself! ;)

Gotta love how a question such as this makes you scratch your head so much. Once we find out the true answer from the NCAA in a couple of weeks we will never forget it!

Let me try this:

TO is granted. A1 and B1 get in a scuffle 8 feet on the floor directly in front of the A bench. Two A team members get up from their seats and approach the scuffle.

Have they "left the bench area when a fight may break out?" 10-4.8 (NCAAW) or 10-6.1.j (NCAAM)?