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Old Thu Oct 04, 2012, 12:34am
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New editorial changes this year:


Next, here's the addition to Rule 2-2-4 NOTE: "State associations may intercede in the event of unusual incidents that occur before, during or after the officials' jurisdiction has ended or in the event that a contest is terminated prior to the conclusion of regulation play."

What exactly is this referring to? How would a state association intercede in a game that is in progress? I guess maybe I can see if it's a state playoff game and a member of the state association is on site, and there's a question of eligibility or something? Is a state association now allowed to overrule an official's ruling during a contest?

If a referee forfeits a game, is this saying that the state association is allowed to negate the forfeit and allow the teams to complete the game? If so, my guess is that the state associations weren't waiting for the Fed's approval.

Does anybody know if there was some particular incident that made somebody think this was a needed editorial change?

I have to say that I'm shocked at how amateurish the rule and editorial changes have been handled over the last two years. It's really sad
A few years ago a football game in W.V. ended with a fight. Officials discussed the identity of players involved for ejection report in the locker room. They discovered new players, not identified on the field, who should've been DQ'd. Created a big hassle and thus language in all rule books. It allows for remedy of unusual events that occur B, D, After the game. Not that the state association can come in during a game and 'fix' things.

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Old Thu Oct 04, 2012, 05:26am
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Maybe I missed it but does the editorial change specify how long the arrow change is postponed? That seems like a very strange choice of wording.
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Old Thu Oct 04, 2012, 07:09am
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Until the next quarter, held ball, or other AP. That's the problem. The sentence is terrible.
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Old Thu Oct 04, 2012, 08:51am
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Thanks to BayStateRef and Jritchie for providing particular examples that may have led to the addition of 2-2-4 NOTE last year.

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It allows for remedy of unusual events that occur B, D, After the game. Not that the state association can come in during a game and 'fix' things.
The note specifically says that the the state association can intercede during the officials' jurisdiction. So I don't think that your comment in red above is true. Additionally, one of the examples already provided in this thread deals with a situation that involved a fight during the game. The state office directed the officials to set aside the fighting penalties and continue the game with the fighting team members still eligible to play.
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Old Thu Oct 04, 2012, 09:07am
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Scrappy, the WV fight involved an early termination. The officials, in the locker room and thus after their "jurisdiction", decided to eject a couple of players who participated in the fight. The ejections and accompanying suspensions were challenged on the jurisdiction issue. Initially, the court overturned the ejections. They were eventually upheld on appeal, but the fed updated the rule anyway.

That said, this particular change seems more aimed as you suggest, now that I've read it more closely.
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