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JRutledge Mon Sep 17, 2012 04:23pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 854727)
If I decide to ignore tights, then many of my "fellow officials" (who evaluate, and rate me) will think that I am doing something wrong. And if I decide to restrict tights, then another segment of my "fellow officials" (who evaluate, and rate me) will think that I am doing something wrong. We don't have some officials, here in my little corner of Connecticut, who wear "Fashion Police" badges, while others don't wear them, and without "badges", I'm not a mind reader.

Honestly I could give a darn about tights. If I noticed them I might try to make sure they are not tights by asking (I do not need to see them). I have seen more of these legging type that are like socks.

And the rules are clear and if a coach does not want us addressing these issues, then they need to have them follow the rules. It bothers me when coaches allow a kid to wear something that is clearly illegal and waits for us to be the bad guy. These things have nothing to do with officiating, they are babysitting.

Peace

Altor Mon Sep 17, 2012 04:37pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 854885)
It bothers me when coaches allow a kid to wear something that is clearly illegal and waits for us to be the bad guy. These things have nothing to do with officiating, they are babysitting

That's the problem with most of the uniform rules throughout all sports, but especially NFHS. They come about because the coaches don't like what they see the kids wearing, but they can't get the kids to stop. So, they ask the rules advisory committees to add a rule so they can tell the kid it's against the rules and that will give them some teeth when they are asked to remove it. But, then they don't enforce the rule themselves, they wait for the officials to do it. Then, when the official enforces it, they are either OO or the Uniform Police.

I hate uniform rules.

JRutledge Mon Sep 17, 2012 04:53pm

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Originally Posted by Altor (Post 854890)
That's the problem with most of the uniform rules throughout all sports, but especially NFHS. They come about because the coaches don't like what they see the kids wearing, but they can't get the kids to stop. So, they ask the rules advisory committees to add a rule so they can tell the kid it's against the rules and that will give them some teeth when they are asked to remove it. But, then they don't enforce the rule themselves, they wait for the officials to do it. Then, when the official enforces it, they are either OO or the Uniform Police.

I hate uniform rules.

I cannot think of any rule that gives you a significant playing advantage or makes you a better player when it comes to these rules. I get that we want players to be somewhat uniformed, but is anyone confused if players are wearing a different headband on the same team? There used to be a time when what the coach said goes and now we have the inmates running the
asylum and we have to clean up the mess and deal with the, "Well the officials last week allowed us to wear this."

All we need is a number that is on the front and a number on the back and that the same team is wearing the same color jersey. Other than that, not sure what rules we have to enforce. And all the other stuff should be dealt with my administrators like what is on the court or not on the court.

Peace

BillyMac Mon Sep 17, 2012 07:13pm

Non Sequitur ???
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 854885)
Honestly I could give a darn about tights.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 854885)
It bothers me when coaches allow a kid to wear something that is clearly illegal.

Wait a minute? I'm confused, and you seldom confuse me with your, normally, spot-on posts.

You don't "give a darn", yet it "bothers" you?

Can two different people be posting on the Forum with the username JRutledge?

APG Tue Sep 18, 2012 06:49pm

Instead of outright locking the thread, I'll give a chance for the thread to "right itself" and get back on topic.*

*Hint: A friendly way to say, please stay on topic. :)

Adam Tue Sep 18, 2012 07:24pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 855142)
Instead of outright locking the thread, I'll give a chance for the thread to "right itself" and get back on topic.*

*Hint: A friendly way to say, please stay on topic. :)

+1

Option 2: We could just cut out the weeds.

bob jenkins Wed Sep 19, 2012 07:46am

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 855144)
Option 2: We could just cut out the weeds.

Choose that one.

Rich Wed Sep 19, 2012 08:08am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 855192)
Choose that one.

Bob, it's good to see you. I hope you stick around.

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I swear, dealing with this thread is like herding cats.

APG gave it a chance to stay on topic and what do we get? 17 more posts about Billy and the badge. Those posts are gone.

Showing some respect, I'm going to leave the thread open. Please respond to the OP if you like. Posts about people posting in this thread will be deleted.

BillyMac Wed Sep 19, 2012 01:45pm

Don't Be A Stranger ...
 
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 855192)
Choose that one.

Always listen to bob.

bob jenkins Thu Sep 20, 2012 08:00am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 855195)
Bob, it's good to see you. I hope you stick around.

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I swear, dealing with this thread is like herding cats.

APG gave it a chance to stay on topic and what do we get? 17 more posts about Billy and the badge. Those posts are gone.

Showing some respect, I'm going to leave the thread open. Please respond to the OP if you like. Posts about people posting in this thread will be deleted.

Depends on the signal to noise ratio.

And, I recognize that what's (apparently) acceptable to the board as a whole might be different from what's acceptable to me, and, of course, some noise is to be expected and even welcomed.

I do appreciate your efforts in helping with this thread.


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