Video: Euro step, Gasol move ? Make the call

[jump stop]

Using high school or NCAA rule book, would you blow the whistle??

[Raymond]

Both would be travels for replanted pivot foot.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Both would be travels for replanted pivot foot.

1+. The tough part in the first video is when one determines when he has ended his dribble/gathered the ball. I agree that they are both travels by rule

-Josh

[hoopguy]

Euro Step synonym for travel. Euro Step is end dribble on left foot change direction on right foot leap off left foot.

The clip is definitely a travel. The problem is, this is very hard to pick up in live action as the lead official. As the lead, I tend to be watching for hack and positioning for potential block or PC. I call when I see but it is easier to see from non lead position because as lead my focus is more on the fouling potential than the travel potential. Also, easier to see from the stands.

You pretty much know the player has traveled when he changes direction on his right foot and then leaps off his left foot. When this happens he has ended his dribble on his left foot.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by hoopguy

Euro Step synonym for travel. Euro Step is end dribble on left foot change direction on right foot leap off left foot.

No it is not. All a Euro Step is in the first place is a move where with your pivot foot in one direction and change direction on the next step. It is often performed legally and sometimes not like any other move. There is nothing in the move that suggest it is illegal. It is a move to make the defender think you are going one way and then dart in the other direction. Now since the term has no rulebook basis but the attempt of the move in itself is not illegal, it is the execution that matters. Players try all kinds of things and do not necessarily do them legally.

Peace

[JRutledge]

I am not convinced the first play is a travel. For one the issue is when did the player gather the ball to stop his dribble. I think the first one is possibly legal. The second one is obviously a travel as the move is a hop step after establishing the ball and pivot foot while in control of the ball.

Peace

[APG]

Originally Posted by hoopguy

Euro Step synonym for travel. Euro Step is end dribble on left foot change direction on right foot leap off left foot.

Negative.

Most Euro steps are legal in high school games. Too many officials call them "travels" because it looks "funny." All the Euro step is a your typical lay-up except the "steps" are not in a straight line.

As far as the videos, none of those plays are going to be called a travel in real time, and I would not have called them myself.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

...As far as the videos, none of those plays are going to be called a travel in real time, and I would not have called them myself.

Of the 2 I would have detected the 1st one easier than Gasol's.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

As far as the videos, none of those plays are going to be called a travel in real time, and I would not have called them myself.

I think I would have caught the second one if I was a C or probably T if no one was in my area. But then again I would not guess either.

Peace

[Adam]

Okay, I finally got my computer back up (wiped and restored), so I could watch the video.

Play 1. I can't tell from my angle when he gathers, but it looks from my view that it'sl close. I can't see making that call in live play.

Play 2. I would have got that on a pivot after a jump stop.