2012 Gold Medal Game: Spain v. USA

[JugglingReferee]

Grabbing the leg has no place in adequate defense. That's why it was a UNS foul. It is textbook FIBA to issue the UNS.

In a Fed game, I have an INT without hesitation.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I disagree with the USC part of the call. At first, I thought they went with a USC foul because there was no defender between the the Spanish player and the basket and he was fouled from the side/behind. But on replay they showed that Chris Paul was clearly between everyone and the basket.

Foul it definitely was, but I don't see myself upgrading on this play.

I agree with you about the upgrade. I would not call this intentional or FF at the college level. He was falling and kind of out of control and stuck out his arm. It looks worse to me in slow motion than live.

Peace

[rockyroad]

Seems to me like it fits the "foul designed to negate an opponent's obvious advantage" (very loose quote there) part of the definition of an INT foul in Fed...

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Seems to me like it fits the "foul designed to negate an opponent's obvious advantage" (very loose quote there) part of the definition of an INT foul in Fed...

Agree...Int.

[constable]

FIBA is very clear about unsporting fouls. FED and NCAA could be as well but I don't have those books in front of me and I've been working FIBA all summer.

An unsportsmanlike foul is a player contact foul which, in the judgement of an
official, is not a legitimate attempt to directly play the ball within the spirit and intent
of the rules.
36.1.2 The official must interpret the unsportsmanlike fouls consistently throughout the
game and to judge only the action.
36.1.3 To judge whether a foul is unsportsmanlike, the officials should apply the following
principles:
• If a player is making no effort to play the ball and contact occurs, it is an
unsportsmanlike foul.
• If a player, in an effort to play the ball, causes excessive contact (hard foul), it is
an unsportsmanlike foul.
• If a defensive player ca uses contact with an opponent from behind or laterally
in an attempt to stop a fast break and there is no opponent between the
offensive player and the opponents’ basket, it is an unsportsmanlike foul.
• If a player commits a foul while making a legitimate e ffort to play the ball
(normal play), it is not an unsportsmanlike foul.


copied directly from the FIBA book. Without having seen the play live it sounds like they official could have applied this ruling.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Agree...Int.

Agreed!

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Agreed!

Agree!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Agreed!

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Agree!

Thanks, thought I was the only one for a minute.

[APG]

http://www.aromascatering.net/apg/Sp...ike%20Foul.mp4

For anyone that wants to see the play in real time.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

http://www.aromascatering.net/apg/Sp...ike%20Foul.mp4

For anyone that wants to see the play in real time.

I think he was trying to get the ball and happened to pull down the opponent. That is what I thought in real time and this review proves it to me. For one the ball was loose and right there.

Peace

[tref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Thanks, thought I was the only one for a minute.

I'm with ya Snaqs. Honestly I thought the nay sayers were just kidding for a minute.
IMO, he lost the ball & wasnt allowing a fastbreak off his turnover, period. Non-basketball... X
The "steal & foul to steal back" play is often camouflaged as a fool the referee play.

[Multiple Sports]

I asked a few posts ago about comparing the Olympic officials to Divison 1

officials and the responses seemed to favor the college guys doing a better

job. I would like some more feedback as to why. Now don't get me wrong a

game between Nigeria and Tunsinia yeah, but USA/SPAIN or USA/ARGENTINA

with my man MANU GINOOOOOOOBILI, I am not sure that a first round D1

crew can handle that game......

Just wanna hear some thoughts on the matter..........

Hey Reds....step up and join the forum!!!!!!!!

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

I asked a few posts ago about comparing the Olympic officials to Divison 1 officials and the responses seemed to favor the college guys doing a better job. I would like some more feedback as to why. Now don't get me wrong a game between Nigeria and Tunsinia yeah, but USA/SPAIN or USA/ARGENTINA with my man MANU GINOOOOOOOBILI, I am not sure that a first round D1 crew can handle that game......
Just wanna hear some thoughts on the matter..........
Hey Reds....step up and join the forum!!!!!!!!

Those that could are the ones that are able to adapt to the FIBA game. Even in a Nigeria and Tunisia contest.

[paulsonj72]

What did you guys thing of the foul Lebron committed on Pau Gasol in the 4th quarter when he went for the block and raked him across the eyes? Unsportsmanlike, disqualifying or common foul? Someone(from Europe) thinks Lebron should have been ejected for that foul because(in his eyes) it was clearly intentional and an attempt to injure. Personally, I think that guy is full of ****. Sorry about no video link.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by paulsonj72

What did you guys thing of the foul Lebron committed on Pau Gasol in the 4th quarter when he went for the block and raked him across the eyes? Unsportsmanlike, disqualifying or common foul? Someone(from Europe) thinks Lebron should have been ejected for that foul because(in his eyes) it was clearly intentional and an attempt to injure. Personally, I think that guy is full of ****. Sorry about no video link.

Absolutely nothing more than a common foul. Not even close to anything else.