FIBA vs. NBA/NCAA/NFHS

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And while I wouldn't be against allowing the offense to reshoot, I see no reason to lessen the penalty.

I think the FT violation penalties are inequitable. I think the soccer has it at least partially right. If the shot ends in a preferred manner for the violating team (make for the offense, miss for the defense), reshoot. If the shot ends in an undesirable manner for the violating team, let it stand....which we already do for defensive violations. For offensive violations on miss, we'd probably need to award the ball to the defense since the offense probably got a rebounding advantage by violating.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I think the FT violation penalties are inequitable. I think the soccer has it at least partially right. If the shot ends in a preferred manner for the violating team (make for the offense, miss for the defense), reshoot. If the shot ends in an undesirable manner for the violating team, let it stand....which we already do for defensive violations. For offensive violations on miss, we'd probably need to award the ball to the defense since the offense probably got a rebounding advantage by violating.

Yeah, I could see that. Then, perhaps, a double violation would make more sense than what now is essentially ignoring the defensive side and punishing only the offense when more FTs are to follow.

Do it your way on single violations. On double violations, cancel the whole shot and move on to what's next.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yeah, I could see that. Then, perhaps, a double violation would make more sense than what now is essentially ignoring the defensive side and punishing only the offense when more FTs are to follow.

Do it your way on single violations. On double violations, cancel the whole shot and move on to what's next.

I'd even go so far as to say that on the 1st of multiple shots, no violations aside from shooter violations or disconcertion would be possible. Exactly what advantage does any player get from violating on a shot that can't be rebounded?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I'd even go so far as to say that on the 1st of multiple shots, no violations aside from shooter violations or disconcertion would be possible. Exactly what advantage does any player get from violating on a shot that can't be rebounded?

The only problem I can see, which is minor, would be that this would increase the number of violations we get when non-shooters come into the lane late. Right now, they know they can't do it at all (some still do occasionally, but hardly ever at the JV level and above). But if we make it so it doesn't matter on some shots, they'll forget occasionally.

Not a major deal, and I can't think of a reason not to go along with that suggestion.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I'd even go so far as to say that on the 1st of multiple shots, no violations aside from shooter violations or disconcertion would be possible. Exactly what advantage does any player get from violating on a shot that can't be rebounded?

If the ball is to remain dead after the free throw is completed, this is how they handle it in the NBA.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

If the ball is to remain dead after the free throw is completed, this is how they handle it in the NBA.

Well, in that case, it can't possibly be a good idea. I don't know what came over me.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Well, in that case, it can't possibly be a good idea. I don't know what came over me.

It'll pass.