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Jarm Wed Jul 25, 2012 01:46pm

Got these for this upcoming year.
 
UPDATE!

With the help of a Sharpie Opaque Paint Pen (oil-based), I made the Nike Air Max 2012s look sharp.

Before:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8554/dscn4110t.jpg

After:

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/649/dscn4111r.jpg


Original post:

Nike Air Max + 2012 - Men's - Running - Shoes - Black/Pure Platinum

Should I black them out with paint or just Sharpie?

Nevadaref Wed Jul 25, 2012 05:09pm

You should burn them. They are part of the evil empire.

Jarm Wed Jul 25, 2012 06:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 849896)
You should burn them. They are part of the evil empire.

But I like them :(

grunewar Wed Jul 25, 2012 08:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 849896)
You should burn them. They are part of the evil empire.

For that price? I think not! ;)

Lcubed48 Thu Jul 26, 2012 02:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 849906)
for that price? I think not! ;)

+$100.00 Yes, Nike = The Evil Empire.

Smitty Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:24am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lcubed48 (Post 849924)
Yes, Nike = The Evil Empire.

Why?

mikeref Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:47am

The Air Max is a superb shoe. A bit pricey but an all around excellent shoe to officiate in. I have all the versions dating back to 2009. I bought the version you have at the end of the season and have used them in summer leagues and at camp. Instead of a sharpie to black out the white swoosh and the white bottom border, I used an opaque point marker made by Elmers (yes the milk people). I bought it at a hobby shop in the art & paint supply department. It works 100% better than a sharpie. Completely and I mean completely covers the white with a nice dark fiinish. When I was done you could not tell where I started coloring and what was originally black. I highly recommend you try it instead of the sharpie. Let us all know if you decide to try it and how it worked out for you.

Jarm Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:59pm

Thanks for the tip mikeref.


With the help of a Sharpie Opaque Paint Pen (oil-based), I made the Nike Air Max 2012s look sharp.

Before:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8554/dscn4110t.jpg

After:

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/649/dscn4111r.jpg

DLH17 Thu Jul 26, 2012 01:28pm

Great summer shoe.

Mark Padgett Thu Jul 26, 2012 05:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lcubed48 (Post 849924)
+$100.00 Yes, Nike = The Evil Empire.

Not here in Oregon. Their tax dollars pay for a lot of stuff, not to mention all the donations (cash and product) they've made to the University of Oregon. The only entity that has a problem with them is the city of Beaverton. Nike has blocked all of that city's efforts to annex their "World Campus" from the unincorporated county. The city would love to collect property tax from them, but it ain't gonna happen.

BktBallRef Thu Jul 26, 2012 09:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarm (Post 849872)

If you lived in NC, you could leave them as they are here.

Jarm Thu Jul 26, 2012 09:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 850029)
If you lived in NC, you could leave them as they are here.

Too late for that now I guess.

zm1283 Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:16pm

I like the shoes, just not the mesh part for officiating. I like suede or leather. I have the Air Max 2011s for everyday wear and I love them. Might turn them into base shoes for baseball eventually.

Lcubed48 Fri Jul 27, 2012 07:57am

Imo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 849955)
Why?

No offense to you or anyone who likes Nikes, but they are murder on my feet. Hence in my world they = the evil empire.

BktBallRef Fri Jul 27, 2012 09:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lcubed48 (Post 850057)
No offense to you or anyone who likes Nikes, but they are murder on my feet. Hence in my world they = the evil empire.


Agreed.

Smitty Mon Jul 30, 2012 08:04am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lcubed48 (Post 850057)
No offense to you or anyone who likes Nikes, but they are murder on my feet. Hence in my world they = the evil empire.

That makes no sense. People with wider feet can't wear them. How does that make the company evil? Just ignorance...

Raymond Mon Jul 30, 2012 08:07am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 850354)
That makes no sense. People with wider feet can't wear them. How does that make the company evil? Just ignorance...

He didn't call them an evil company, he called them the "evil empire". Entirely different meaning. Entirely different context.

R.I.F.

Smitty Mon Jul 30, 2012 08:08am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 850355)
He didn't call them an evil company, he called them the "evil empire". Entirely different meaning. Entirely different context.

R.I.F.

Feel free to explain the difference.

Raymond Mon Jul 30, 2012 08:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 850356)
Feel free to explain the difference.

Feel free to catch up on pop culture before calling people ignorant.

Smitty Mon Jul 30, 2012 08:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 850357)
Feel free to catch up on pop culture before calling people ignorant.

You're kidding me. :rolleyes:

Raymond Mon Jul 30, 2012 08:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 850354)
That makes no sense. People with wider feet can't wear them. How does that make the company evil? Just ignorance...

Really?

Smitty Mon Jul 30, 2012 08:23am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 850360)
Really?

Do you have anything to back up calling a company evil because they don't make a product that fits you? Otherwise your lack of an argument is really not anything I can respond to.

Raymond Mon Jul 30, 2012 09:25am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 850361)
Do you have anything to back up calling a company evil because they don't make a product that fits you? Otherwise your lack of an argument is really not anything I can respond to.

It's a frickin' joke. Just like people call the New York Yankees or ESPN "the evil empire". Get a grip.

Lcubed48 Mon Jul 30, 2012 09:36am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 850374)
It's a frickin' joke. Just like people call the New York Yankees or ESPN "the evil empire". Get a grip.

Please, come back down to earth. The company is not evil (as BNR noted).

Their shoes have never worked for me so I used a social metaphor to equate what the shoes mean to me. And sorry to say, you missed my joke. Как жаль.

Oh, yes the Yankees are the original evil sports empire. ;)

Smitty Mon Jul 30, 2012 09:55am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lcubed48 (Post 850375)
Please, come back down to earth. The company is not evil (as BNR noted).

Their shoes have never worked for me so I used a social metaphor to equate what the shoes mean to me. And sorry to say, you missed my joke. Как жаль.

Oh, yes the Yankees are the original evil sports empire. ;)

That's not what you said. You said this: +$100.00 Yes, Nike = The Evil Empire.

So you can backtrack now and blame me for "not getting it" but that's not what you originally meant. Nice debating skills, though. Moving on...

Lcubed48 Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:08am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 850378)
That's not what you said. You said this: +$100.00 Yes, Nike = The Evil Empire.

So you can backtrack now and blame me for "not getting it" but that's not what you originally meant. Nice debating skills, though. Moving on...

I know exactly what I wrote. I did not say "Nike" = the company. You made an incorrect assumption based what you saw in my post.

I agree with you on one thing - "moving-on time" Where is Mr Bob when we need him most? The good that Nike (THE COMPANY) does for the state of Oregon is fantastic - as noted by Mr Mark. I wear Nike non-shoe gear. I just will not wear shoes made by Nike.

Adam Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:12am

I understood "evil empire" as a joke equating them with the Yankees or ESPN.

JRutledge Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 850361)
Do you have anything to back up calling a company evil because they don't make a product that fits you? Otherwise your lack of an argument is really not anything I can respond to.

Really Smitty? Do you really want to get this hot and bothered about this comment? First and foremost if someone wants to call a company like Nike the "evil empire" they have many reasons to do so. It was clear he was just talking about the fit those shoes are in his world. That does not apply to me, but in no way would I be offended if someone did not like a certain shoe company. There really has to be other things that upset you than this comment.

Peace

Smitty Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 850398)
Really Smitty? Do you really want to get this hot and bothered about this comment? First and foremost if someone wants to call a company like Nike the "evil empire" they have many reasons to do so. It was clear he was just talking about the fit those shoes are in his world. That does not apply to me, but in no way would I be offended if someone did not like a certain shoe company. There really has to be other things that upset you than this comment.

Peace

I'm not upset. Or hot and bothered. I simply asked why. Then BadNewsRef got snippy and I responded to him. It's a knee jerk reaction to think that Nike is evil - I was simply curious why. Never really got the answer, but it all went sideways so who cares. Thank goodness, though, that the world revolves around what you would be offended by or not. :rolleyes:

JRutledge Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 850407)
I'm not upset. Or hot and bothered. I simply asked why. Then BadNewsRef got snippy and I responded to him. It's a knee jerk reaction to think that Nike is evil - I was simply curious why. Never really got the answer, but it all went sideways so who cares. Thank goodness, though, that the world revolves around what you would be offended by or not. :rolleyes:

I do not know what you are emotionally, but it seems like an overreaction to something that really was in a very lighthearted context. So what if someone thinks Nike is evil? Do you have stock in the company? Do you work for the company? Otherwise it as a joking comment that was to illustrate a person's feeling toward their shoes. If people can call the Yankees or other companies evil in the context of sports, then why would you even be worried about that characterization?

I am just a little miffed why you care what someone thinks of a company. It is not like Nike is doing things for the betterment of the larger society. They are doing things to make a profit. In some world view that could be considered on some level evil. ;)

Smitty Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 850414)
Do you have stock in the company? Do you work for the company?

Yes. And I worked for the company for 8 years and still have good friends who do. So there ya go. They do plenty for the betterment of many societies, but I wouldn't expect you to know that.

JRutledge Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:42pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 850416)
Yes. And I worked for the company for 8 years and still have good friends who do. So there ya go. They do plenty for the betterment of many societies, but I wouldn't expect you to know that.

Now this explains the comments. ;)

Peace

Camron Rust Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:43pm

From the outside, the comments in this thread sure seemed like a jab at the company and not how a shoe fit someone. Smitty was certainly not alone in perceiving it that way....and I've never worked for Nike.

Smitty Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 850422)
Now this explains the comments. ;)

Peace

Thank you. And I'll just leave it at that hopefully. I was not trying to start anything. Lots of people have an inaccurate perception of the company based on media stories that occurred over a dozen years ago.

JRutledge Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:53pm

Perspective comes to mind.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 850424)
From the outside, the comments in this thread sure seemed like a jab at the company and not how a shoe fit someone. Smitty was certainly not alone in perceiving it that way....and I've never worked for Nike.

I think you are party right, but who cares what someone thinks about a company? If people have negative feelings about charities, political parties or government organizations, I think they can feel a lot of things about a shoe company.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 850426)
Thank you. And I'll just leave it at that hopefully. I was not trying to start anything. Lots of people have an inaccurate perception of the company based on media stories that occurred over a dozen years ago.

Yes they do, but is this really worth being up in arms about?

My only point is the comment seemed mostly in jest and if it was serious why would you care? I do not like certain companies either, does that make my perception totally wrong? My opinion of any company might be from my personal experiences and that at the end of the day is all that matters to most consumers.

Peace

Adam Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 850424)
From the outside, the comments in this thread sure seemed like a jab at the company and not how a shoe fit someone. Smitty was certainly not alone in perceiving it that way....and I've never worked for Nike.

I agree, but they seemed clearly more in the "Yankees are evil" vein than the "Drug Cartels are evil".

Smitty Mon Jul 30, 2012 01:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 850430)
Yes they do, but is this really worth being up in arms about?

My only point is the comment seemed mostly in jest and if it was serious why would you care? I do not like certain companies either, does that make my perception totally wrong? My opinion of any company might be from my personal experiences and that at the end of the day is all that matters to most consumers.

Peace

Who was up in arms about it? I think that's an overreaction. And this being the offseason, it's at least something to talk about. It was brought up. I asked why. The answer was weak. I was just having a conversation. Whoop de do.

JRutledge Mon Jul 30, 2012 01:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 850435)
Who was up in arms about it? I think that's an overreaction.

This was your response.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 850354)
That makes no sense. People with wider feet can't wear them. How does that make the company evil? Just ignorance...

Now you do not think that is a little over the top? Just a little.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 850435)
And this being the offseason, it's at least something to talk about. It was brought up. I asked why. The answer was weak. I was just having a conversation. Whoop de do.

And I am having a conversation too. No sweat off my back either way. I know why I am having the conversation as well. But you took what was a throw-away comment and made it into an (serious) indictment of a company. Now I have read people say much worse about officiating outlet companies that will remain nameless on this site and I do not recall many people calling someone ignorant for having a different opinion or feeling negatively about their experiences. I like Nike shoes, I wear them a lot. But I know people that do not like them and like other companies. And if I called them evil or any other company, there is nothing you are going to say that will change that fact. ;)

Peace

Smitty Mon Jul 30, 2012 01:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 850436)
Now you do not think that is a little over the top? Just a little.

Honestly, in this context, no.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 850436)
And I am having a conversation too. No sweat off my back either way. I know why I am having the conversation as well. But you took what was a throw-away comment and made it into an (serious) indictment of a company. Now I have read people say much worse about officiating outlet companies that will remain nameless on this site and I do not recall many people calling someone ignorant for having a different opinion or feeling negatively about their experiences. I like Nike shoes, I wear them a lot. But I know people that do not like them and like other companies. And if I called them evil or any other company, there is nothing you are going to say that will change that fact. ;)

But why does your opinion trump my opinion? You're saying all that like my opinion is irrelevant.

Raymond Mon Jul 30, 2012 01:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 850435)
Who was up in arms about it? ....

You may not have been up in arms, but you definitely were showing your ignorance.

JRutledge Mon Jul 30, 2012 01:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 850437)
Honestly, in this context, no.



But why does your opinion trump my opinion? You're saying all that like my opinion is irrelevant.

Stop being a baby. I did not say my opinion was more important or trumped your opinion. I just found it odd that what was basically a fun comment and explained as such that the place you went was calling someone ignorant. Now I know this place has people get upset about all kinds of things, but really that was something to call someone ignorant for? I found it odd that is all. But then you are going to have to get upset more, because a lot of people do not like Nike for more than just how their shoes fit on their specific feet.

Peace

Smitty Mon Jul 30, 2012 01:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 850441)
Stop being a baby. I did not say my opinion was more important or trumped your opinion. I just found it odd that what was basically a fun comment and explained as such that the place you went was calling someone ignorant. Now I know this place has people get upset about all kinds of things, but really that was something to call someone ignorant for? I found it odd that is all. But then you are going to have to get upset more, because a lot of people do not like Nike for more than just how their shoes fit on their specific feet.

Peace

Are we still having a conversation? Or did you just take this down a few notches? Now I'm just arguing with a fool.

Smitty Mon Jul 30, 2012 01:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 850438)
You may not have been up in arms, but you definitely were showing your ignorance.

Very clever. Hi pot! I'm kettle!

Raymond Mon Jul 30, 2012 01:48pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 850444)
Very clever. Hi pot! I'm kettle!

You're the one who called my personal friend of 4 years ignorant b/c he made a joke about some company you worked at for 8 years.

Why does your stance trump mine?

Smitty Mon Jul 30, 2012 02:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 850447)
You're the one who called my personal friend of 4 years ignorant b/c he made a joke about some company you worked at for 8 years.

Why does your stance trump mine?

Oh good grief. And I'm the one acting like a baby... http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/a...7/facepalm.gif

Adam Mon Jul 30, 2012 02:15pm

This thread needs a lock on it.

Raymond Mon Jul 30, 2012 03:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 850454)
This thread needs a lock on it.

But then Nike will be irreparably harmed b/c no one will know what shoes jarm bought. :p

JRutledge Mon Jul 30, 2012 03:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 850443)
Are we still having a conversation? Or did you just take this down a few notches? Now I'm just arguing with a fool.

You must be arguing with yourself, because I do not see anyone arguing with you. I love how you are so quick to call names but you were the one that is trying to defend a silly comment about a company that most people here could give a damn about honestly.

Peace

JRutledge Mon Jul 30, 2012 03:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 850454)
This thread needs a lock on it.

Yes it should. After all we cannot talk bad about Nike in any conversation. ;)

Peace

APG Mon Jul 30, 2012 03:58pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 850454)
This thread needs a lock on it.

Agreed


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