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Stat-Man Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:05pm

Taking the Plunge
 
I wish Mick was still around... I'm sure he'd like this post.

I decided to pursue officiating. I passed the MHSAA's Guidebook Exam and the Basketball Mechanics Exam this past weekend. :)

I've applied for membership in a local association where I've seen the trainers and one of the assignors in action and I'm looking forward to the initial Rookies Meeting should I be accepted. I'm also hoping that I'll get my first games this winter.

In the meantime, I'm definitely going to be reviewing the mechanics manual regularly. Even though subvarsity games have a two person crew, I have a feeling the sooner I understand three person mechanics, the better it will be for me.

I may also officiate softball at some point as well.

It should be an interesting experience.

johnny d Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:10pm

dont worry about 3 man mechanics until you have mastered 2 person mechanics. you will most likely start out on 2 person games. if you are messing those games up because you lack knowledge of rules and appropriate mechanics you wont have to worry about moving up to 3 man games.

JRutledge Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny d (Post 849457)
dont worry about 3 man mechanics until you have mastered 2 person mechanics. you will most likely start out on 2 person games. if you are messing those games up because you lack knowledge of rules and appropriate mechanics you wont have to worry about moving up to 3 man games.

You can learn both of them together. But the reality is you will not work a lot of 3 Person in the early years except for camps and off-season games. It is good to have an understanding of both to know why you have a 3rd and how much you have to work in 2 to get other things that you would not have to in 3.

Peace

Adam Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 849458)
You can learn both of them together. But the reality is you will not work a lot of 3 Person in the early years except for camps and off-season games. It is good to have an understanding of both to know why you have a 3rd and how much you have to work in 2 to get other things that you would not have to in 3.

Peace

Agreed. To me, the biggest benefit of 3 person was learning how to cross over. I'm still slow to do it in 2, but I do it more than a lot of guys do.

grunewar Thu Jul 19, 2012 05:15am

Misleading Title?
 
I thought you were writing to tell us you were getting married! ;)

Good luck and have fun!

Enjoy the challenge that is our avocation!

BillyMac Thu Jul 19, 2012 06:05am

I Had A Different Thought ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 849468)
I thought you were writing to tell us you were getting married.

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BillyMac Thu Jul 19, 2012 06:06am

Take Two ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 849468)
I thought you were writing to tell us you were getting married!

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Welpe Thu Jul 19, 2012 08:08am

Good gracious...really?

Stat, congrats! I'm glad to see this. Good luck on your class and remember, have fun out there. :)

Adam Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:15am

Billy, sometimes I think Brad needs to assign a moderator just for you.

And do you really think this is appropriate posting to go with that signature line?

Smitty Thu Jul 19, 2012 01:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 849493)
Billy, sometimes I think Brad needs to assign a moderator just for you.

And do you really think this is appropriate posting to go with that signature line?

Feeling happy that I have him on ignore....

Mark Padgett Thu Jul 19, 2012 04:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stat-Man (Post 849455)
I decided to pursue officiating.

Don't forget to always implement the first rule of officiating. :)

26 Year Gap Thu Jul 19, 2012 04:51pm

Great news. Observe as many games as you are able to and find a mentor if one is not assigned to you. You will not learn everything at once, so try not to get overwhelmed.

BillyMac Thu Jul 19, 2012 05:13pm

What ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 849493)
And do you really think this is appropriate posting to go with that signature line?

I believe that it's in John's Gospel where Jesus states that it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a woman to bungee jump in front of a photograph of another woman wearing a supportive foundation garment. Don't quote me on that. Maybe it was Luke? I have to double check with my pastor on Sunday.

just another ref Thu Jul 19, 2012 05:36pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 849493)
Billy, sometimes I think Brad needs to assign a moderator just for you.

And do you really think this is appropriate posting to go with that signature line?

+1

Seriously, Billy, consider a sedative.

BillyMac Thu Jul 19, 2012 06:21pm

Not Too Far Fetched ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 849534)
Consider a sedative.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stat-Man (Post 849455)
Taking the Plunge.

"Take The Ultimate Plunge" and "Take The Nestea Plunge" (It was 100 degrees F here in Connecticut at the time, which is why I immediately thought of this when I read the title of Stat-Man's thread).

It's the summer. It's the off season. The Forum has been as dead as a door nail. Almost twenty-four hours between posts this past weekend. Can't we all just lighten up for a few more weeks. Isn't there a mid-western state that plays girls high school basketball in an autumn season? God, I hope so. Not that there's anything wrong with FIBA Olympic basketball.

JRutledge Thu Jul 19, 2012 06:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 849538)
"Take The Ultimate Plunge" and "Take The Nestea Plunge".

It's the summer. It's the off season. The Forum has been as dead as a door nail. Almost twenty-four hours between posts this past weekend. Can't we all just lighten up for a few more weeks. Isn't there a mid-western state that plays high school girls basketball in an autumn season? God, I hope so. Not that there's anything wrong with FIBA Olympic basketball.

I think people like to have fun but you take it to another level Billy. Just sayin. :)

Peace

BillyMac Thu Jul 19, 2012 07:15pm

Love The JRutledge Signature "Peace" ...
 
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. (Matthew 5:9)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 849543)
I think people like to have fun but you take it to another level Billy. Just sayin. :)

Appreciate your smilie. Just sayin'.

BillyMac Thu Jul 19, 2012 07:25pm

And Furthermore ...
 
... just exactly what's inappropriate, in regard to my signature, with the "Nestea Plunge"?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 849493)
And do you really think this is appropriate posting to go with that signature line?


Freddy Thu Jul 19, 2012 08:54pm

"Now, Back to Our Regularly Scheduled Topic of the Thread"
 
:)

Welcome to officiating! It doesn't do much for your self-esteem, but it at least helps to make you feel like a worthless slug on a regular basis. :D
What state the the "M" in MHSAA stand for? (PM me if you don't want to reveal it on the board)

JRutledge Thu Jul 19, 2012 09:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 849547)
What state the the "M" in MHSAA stand for? (PM me if you don't want to reveal it on the board)

I am going to guess the same state that Mick was from. ;)

Peace

Freddy Thu Jul 19, 2012 09:37pm

Duh
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 849548)
I am going to guess the same state that Mick was from. ;)

Peace

Oh, that state that begins with "M". :D

JRutledge Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 849549)
Oh, that state that begins with "M". :D

You are newer. I will give you a pass.

BTW that is Michigan.

Peace

dsqrddgd909 Fri Jul 20, 2012 08:32am

Welcome to officiating. All great advice so far.
If possible go to a camp and listen and learn.

Try to work on 1 thing at a time.

Work on mechanics. I am starting my 4th year and a veteran official told me a few weeks ago that my traveling call "sucked."

Best advice I got here on the forum was "Be in the right place, look in the right place, call the obvious."

APG Sat Jul 21, 2012 04:31pm

First off, welcome to the family...and to this things of ours. :cool:


Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 849538)
"Take The Ultimate Plunge" and "Take The Nestea Plunge" (It was 100 degrees F here in Connecticut at the time, which is why I immediately thought of this when I read the title of Stat-Man's thread).

It's the summer. It's the off season. The Forum has been as dead as a door nail. Almost twenty-four hours between posts this past weekend. Can't we all just lighten up for a few more weeks. Isn't there a mid-western state that plays girls high school basketball in an autumn season? God, I hope so. Not that there's anything wrong with FIBA Olympic basketball.

I'd certainly say that your off topic postings hasn't helped at all. You kept it in check when bob was moderating, but you've gone overboard since. If you don't like the forums being dead bring up play situations/scenarios/clips to discuss.

BillyMac Sat Jul 21, 2012 05:13pm

"Rock The Boat" (Hues Corporation) ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 849597)
If you don't like the forums being dead bring up play situations/scenarios/clips to discuss.

It's 100% off-season for me. I won't throw up a jump ball until November. I can't take time off from work to go to camps (I'm the best Ammonia/Total Kjeldahl Nitrogen analyst they've got, and summer is our busiest season at the laboratory). Connecticut is an all IAABO state, and IAABO, and the AAU, have not seen eye to to eye in regard to AAU tournament assignments, and in regard to fee schedules. Two summers ago, our IAABO state board considered barring all IAABO members from officiating in AAU tournaments, until litigious terms like "self employed", "independent contractors", and "restraint of trade", started to be thrown around, and then the state board backed off. But they still have "discouraged" us from officiating in AAU tournaments, and my local board has taken a strong leadership role in discouraging it's members from AAU officiating. I'm a "company man", and usually don't like to "rock the boat", so here I sit, hoping that other Forum members post their summer plays, questions, comments, and experiences.

I did recently take up kayaking, so maybe that will keep me occupied until the autumn.

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Adam Sat Jul 21, 2012 06:26pm

Colorado is an IAABO state as well, but I've not heard of those issues. There is no AAU here, though. Other organizations dominate summer ball here.

BillyMac Sat Jul 21, 2012 08:03pm

Hard Times ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 849602)
Colorado is an IAABO state as well.

My prayers go out to families, and friends, of the victims of the senseless violence of a few nights ago. With such a large number of people killed, or wounded, there are probably a very large number of Coloradoans who either knew one of the victims, or who know someone who knew one of the victims.

Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints. (Psalm 116:15)

Stat-Man Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:46am

Thanks for all the replies and feeback.

M from MHSAA is Michigan.

The focus will definitely be on mechanics. On the sidelines, I dislike sloppy mechanics, so there is motivation not to have people say the same about me as an official :D. I'm also looking forward to reviewing the casebook once I receive it.

I've already applied for membership in an association and I'm waiting to hear back. I've seen the association's trainers officiate upper-level games, so I'm hopeful I can learn form their experiences. From there, I can proceed with finding an assignor, mentor, etc.

Definitely looking forward to the experience.:)

PS: I also noticed upon reading the replies that Jurassic Referee is no longer with us. Hopefully, he is now getting call ing some good games thanks to the Great Assignor.

JRutledge Fri Jul 27, 2012 01:19am

Man you have been away for some time.

Well good luck and work hard and make us proud. ;)

Peace

JugglingReferee Fri Jul 27, 2012 05:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stat-Man (Post 849455)
I wish Mick was still around... I'm sure he'd like this post.

I decided to pursue officiating. I passed the MHSAA's Guidebook Exam and the Basketball Mechanics Exam this past weekend.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 850046)
Well good luck and work hard and make us proud. ;)

Good choice and great advice!

Multiple Sports Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:43pm

Billy Mac - IAABO
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 849600)
It's 100% off-season for me. I won't throw up a jump ball until November. I can't take time off from work to go to camps (I'm the best Ammonia/Total Kjeldahl Nitrogen analyst they've got, and summer is our busiest season at the laboratory). Connecticut is an all IAABO state, and IAABO, and the AAU, have not seen eye to to eye in regard to AAU tournament assignments, and in regard to fee schedules. Two summers ago, our IAABO state board considered barring all IAABO members from officiating in AAU tournaments, until litigious terms like "self employed", "independent contractors", and "restraint of trade", started to be thrown around, and then the state board backed off. But they still have "discouraged" us from officiating in AAU tournaments, and my local board has taken a strong leadership role in discouraging it's members from AAU officiating. I'm a "company man", and usually don't like to "rock the boat", so here I sit, hoping that other Forum members post their summer plays, questions, comments, and experiences.

I did recently take up kayaking, so maybe that will keep me occupied until the autumn.

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BM - I am a IAABO member and I thought that IAABO was a "teaching" organization??? How can the state board tell you what you can and can't work ???? It seems to me that the assingers don't want you to work becuasse the fees will be under what he would ask for and this is eventually taking money out of their pocket....

Looking foward to hearing your reply........

BillyMac Fri Jul 27, 2012 04:41pm

Like Glue, We Stick Together, Except When We Don't ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 850114)
How can the state board tell you what you can and can't work ????

They can't. They thought that they could, but when a few officials, and AAU tournament directors, started "rattling sabers", and throwing around litigious terms like "self employed", "independent contractors", and "restraint of trade", the state board, and thus our local board, put "their tails between their legs" and backed down.

Basically it was an attempt by the IAABO state board to increase AAU fees by creating a monopoly over all AAU assignments, like IAABO presently has over all public high school assignments, all high school prep school assignments, and a very large number of middle school assignments.

The coup failed. Now the state board, and our local board, have simply "discouraged" members from officiating AAU tournaments that have not "signed on" with IAABO. We have been told to "hang together", that eventually, if enough of us refuse to officiate in AAU tournaments not affiliated with an "official" IAABO assigner, AAU tournament directors will "come running to us", "begging" to pay us the fees that the state board thinks that we deserve.

Besides being "discouraged" from accepting such AAU assignments, we have been reminded that while officiating such assignments, we are not covered by the IAABO insurance policy, we may not wear the IAABO patch, and that we cannot work with a non-IAABO member.

APG Fri Jul 27, 2012 05:17pm

Say an official decides to go ahead and work in "non-approved" tournaments...I'm guessing that wouldn't help his/her schedule during the regular season?

JRutledge Fri Jul 27, 2012 05:29pm

And this is where organizations are going to get themselves in trouble. Unless we are employees and they are paying some other bills and expenses of those employees, they are a lawsuit away from that practice stopping.

Peace

26 Year Gap Fri Jul 27, 2012 09:09pm

That is completely nuts. Having off-season work allows officials to focus on points of their games that need strenghtening. I couldn't imagine going from mid-February until mid-November WITHOUT working in between. Glad my IAABO chapter didn't take that view.

BillyMac Sat Jul 28, 2012 08:37am

The Plot Thickens, Don't You Just Love A Thick Plot ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 850186)
That is completely nuts. Having off-season work allows officials to focus on points of their games that need strengthening. I couldn't imagine going from mid-February until mid-November WITHOUT working in between. Glad my IAABO chapter didn't take that view.

I probably should have mentioned this in my earlier post, but there was another reason for this "hostile takeover" attempt. As stated "This policy is to guarantee that IAABO members are fairly offered the opportunity to service AAU and other independent tournaments in their respective regions working for fair and guaranteed fees".

AAU tournament directors were employing very small groups of officials to work their tournament games, and these small group of officials were working as many games, and making as much money, as they could physically, and mentally, bear. If you were an official who wanted to work AAU games in the offseason, you had to know the "secret handshake". AAU tournament directors would use a very small group of officials as "assigners" for various tournaments, and these "assigners" would only assign games to their close friends.

Because so many officials, eager to make some offseason money, or eager to get in some offseason experience, were getting "shut out" from working these games, the IAABO state board, and the local boards, wanted to try to "spread the wealth", thus allowing all officials who wanted to work such tournaments the opportunity to do so. The hope of the state board was that instead of a very small group of officials working a dozen games each over a weekend tournament, that a larger group of officials would work two, or three, games each over the weekend.

AAU tournament directors, wanting to keep their fees as low as possible, and small groups of officials, wanting to protect their "cash cows", got together, throwing out terms like "independent contractor", and "restraint of trade", and that stopped the state board "dead in its tracks".

JetMetFan Sat Jul 28, 2012 08:56am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 850159)
Besides being "discouraged" from accepting such AAU assignments, we have been reminded that while officiating such assignments, we are not covered by the IAABO insurance policy, we may not wear the IAABO patch, and that we cannot work with a non-IAABO member.

I'm no attorney but I wonder if this section of the IAABO constitution may come back to bite your state board?

Quote:

Section 12. RIGHTS OF MEMBERS.
Members, including Provisional Members, may wear the official uniform; annually receive a membership card and the Handbook; officiate with other members of this Association; and shall receive such other benefits as may be provided by the Association or its Boards. There are no restrictions upon members as to where they function. If and when an official, who is a member of the Association, officiates in a game played in a location not under the geographical jurisdiction of the Board of which he is a member, he is to be governed by the rules, regulations and fee schedules which govern Board members in that area.

BillyMac Sat Jul 28, 2012 09:21am

Where's Perry Mason When You Need Him ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 850218)
I'm no attorney but I wonder if this section of the IAABO constitution may come back to bite your state board?

I'm not an attorney either, nor do I play one on television, but the following advice has been given to all our members, in writing:

"If you officiate for a non-approved assignor you are not covered by the IAABO insurance and may be asked to officiate with a non-IAABO member. If you do officiate with a non-IAABO member you cannot wear the IAABO patch and represent yourself as an IAABO member. That would be a direct violation of the Constitution".

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Bad Zebra Sat Jul 28, 2012 10:34am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 850223)
I'm not an attorney either, nor do I play one on television, but the following advice has been given to all our members, in writing:

"If you officiate for a non-approved assignor you are not covered by the IAABO insurance and may be asked to officiate with a non-IAABO member. If you do officiate with a non-IAABO member you cannot wear the IAABO patch and represent yourself as an IAABO member. That would be a direct violation of the Constitution".

Are CT schools members of the FED, and thusly are IAABO members also considered members of the FED? FED insurance policy would cover members in that case.

JetMetFan Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:18am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 850236)
Are CT schools members of the FED, and thusly are IAABO members also considered members of the FED? FED insurance policy would cover members in that case.

Would that even apply in an AAU situation? It's not school teams playing in these tournaments.

Of course, if someone is a NASO member then they'd be covered in case of any problems.

JetMetFan Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 850223)
I'm not an attorney either, nor do I play one on television, but the following advice has been given to all our members, in writing:

"If you officiate for a non-approved assignor you are not covered by the IAABO insurance and may be asked to officiate with a non-IAABO member. If you do officiate with a non-IAABO member you cannot wear the IAABO patch and represent yourself as an IAABO member. That would be a direct violation of the Constitution".

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4123/4...5ef05648_m.jpg

Found something else that seems like the IAABO version of Rule 2-3

Quote:

Chartered Boards shall have the right to formulate their own policies including, but not limited to, voting, working with non-members, IAABO uniforms, and local Board procedures so long as those policies do not conflict with this International Constitution.
That appears to leave boards a good deal of wiggle room.

Bad Zebra Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 850243)
Would that even apply in an AAU situation? It's not school teams playing in these tournaments.

Of course, if someone is a NASO member then they'd be covered in case of any problems.

From the NFHS Officials Assn. website:


Insurance coverage includes:

• Coverage for all levels of officiating (youth, recreational, adult and collegiate) in sports recognized by the state high school association

• Excess General Liability

• Excess Accident Medical and Dental

• Accidental Death and Dismemberment

The key is whether IAABO members are also Fed members in that state.

Adam Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:57pm

Crazy, I work with non members regularly, as our middle schools do not have to use IAABO officials (IAABO membership is required to be certified for high school ball), and I sometimes wear a patched shirt (not often). I've never been told it's not allowed.

BillyMac Sat Jul 28, 2012 01:29pm

Let's Play Monopoly, I Want To Be The Top Hat ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 850236)
Are CT schools members of the FED, and thusly are IAABO members also considered members of the FED? FED insurance policy would cover members in that case.

All Connecticut high school basketball officials are IAABO members. 100%. We're the only game in town. Unless we officiate another sport, we are not members of the NFHS, in fact, we aren't even allowed to join the NFHS as individuals due to the NFHS "all or none" policy. We get our NFHS rulebooks, and NFHS casebooks, as part of our IAABO manual, which also includes the IAABO constitution, an IAABO directory, and an IAABO mechanics manual. We have IAABO insurance, and those of us who do not officiate any other sports only have IAABO insurance, we do not have NFHS insurance.

Bad Zebra Sat Jul 28, 2012 02:33pm

Teamsters? UAW?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 850264)
All Connecticut high school basketball officials are IAABO members. 100%. We're the only game in town. Unless we officiate another sport, we are not members of the NFHS, in fact, we aren't even allowed to join the NFHS as individuals due to the NFHS "all or none" policy. We get our NFHS rulebooks, and NFHS casebooks, as part of our IAABO manual, which also includes the IAABO constitution, an IAABO directory, and an IAABO mechanics manual. We have IAABO insurance, and those of us who do not officiate any other sports only have IAABO insurance, we do not have NFHS insurance.

Sounds more like a union than an officials association. Not that there's anything wrong with that...jus' sayin'.

BillyMac Sat Jul 28, 2012 02:48pm

Look For The Union Label ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra (Post 850275)
Sounds more like a union than an officials association. Not that there's anything wrong with that...jus' sayin'.

Back when I started, more than 30 years ago. IAABO, with several local boards, under the control of one state board, for one reason, or another, worked all high school boys games. Girls high school games were officiated by several "county size" boards, all independent, with no state wide organization. Eventually, over many years, girls high school coaches, athletic directors, and principals, realized that IAABO, with it's local, state, and international organization, and with it's emphasis on training, and improving officials, started switching to IAABO officials. My local board merged with the last independent "girls" board a few years ago, and now Connecticut is a 100% IAABO state for all high school games, and prep high school games, both boys, and girls. If you want to officiate high school basketball games in the Constitution State, then you had better belong to IAABO. Ain't no other choice.

Camron Rust Sun Jul 29, 2012 01:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 850159)
Besides being "discouraged" from accepting such AAU assignments, we have been reminded that while officiating such assignments,

we are not covered by the IAABO insurance policy,

That may or may not be true, but for those that NFHS insurance, you'd be covered there as that insurance is not limited to just NFHS games.
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 850159)
we may not wear the IAABO patch,

Perhaps reasonable but I'm not sure they can actually do that. IAABO is a training and certification organization and if you are IAABO certified, you're IAABO certified.
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 850159)
and that we cannot work with a non-IAABO member.

They definitely can not do that. They have no say in that matter.

Camron Rust Sun Jul 29, 2012 02:02am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 850223)
I'm not an attorney either, nor do I play one on television, but the following advice has been given to all our members, in writing:

"If you officiate for a non-approved assignor you are not covered by the IAABO insurance and may be asked to officiate with a non-IAABO member. If you do officiate with a non-IAABO member you cannot wear the IAABO patch and represent yourself as an IAABO member. That would be a direct violation of the Constitution".


While someone may not wish to take that up in court, it doubt it would stand up to legal scrutiny while maintaining the independent contractor status. For employees, you could do that, but that is not the same.

BillyMac Sun Jul 29, 2012 09:23am

15 Minutes Could Save You 15% Or More ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 850301)
That may or may not be true, but for those that NFHS insurance, you'd be covered there as that insurance is not limited to just NFHS games.

The only basketball officials, here in Connecticut, who have NFHS insurance, are those that officiate another sport. IAABO basketball officials, who only officiate one sport, can't even join the NFHS as individual members due to the NFHS "all or none" rule, and thus, are not covered by NFHS insurance.

BillyMac Sun Jul 29, 2012 09:31am

One Is The Loneliest Number That You'll Ever Do ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 850159)
That we cannot work with a non-IAABO member.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 850301)
They definitely can not do that. They have no say in that matter.

Our statewide "One Person Mechanics" guidelines (partner doesn't show, partner injured, no partner assigned, etc.) state that we should never work with a non-IAABO official due to liability concerns. Maybe that's their angle?

DLH17 Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 849533)
I believe that it's in John's Gospel where Jesus states that it's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a woman to bungee jump in front of a photograph of another woman wearing a supportive foundation garment. Don't quote me on that. Maybe it was Luke? I have to double check with my pastor on Sunday.

LOL....I love it.

Multiple Sports Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:21am

Iaaabo ???????
 
In my opinion, the only good thing that IAAABO does is protects your territory from another another IAABO territory bidding on your games......in my state a group left IAABO and formed their own non IAABO board.

They only service private schools but if they got a public school contract they would receive assignments in the state tourney......

And I believe if an interpreter was really committed, he could teach his cadets
everything they need to know to be a successful official and get them to past the state test.... You can pass the Fed Test but fail the IAABO test and not get to officiate in the upcoming season....

Here in the NE / Mid Atalntic IAABO is a pipeline to CBOA which is a pipeline to college basektball...........does anyone disagree......


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