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Cornellref Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:42pm
Hey all, just going over some odd situations that happened this past year. Here's one I'm not sure how to properly manage:

I am lead along the endline and A1 ends his dribble directly in front of me. He panics due to some defensive pressure and throws a backward pass to teamate A2 who is open near the Trail official. However, defender B1 slightly tips the ball after the release of the pass and it sails into the backcourt as a result. I immediately give a tip signal but my Trail is screened and I don't verbalize the tip (should I?). A2 is the first to touch it there and the Trail called a backcourt violation. How do you proceed from here? Thanks for your responses. -CRef

bigwhistle Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:50pm
Blow your whistle so your partner will not quickly put the ball in play. Then go to him/her and relay the information that the ball was tipped in your primary by the defense. If that official does not have other information (such as a subsequent tip by the offense), he/she should change the call and give the ball back to the original offensive team. It is the responsibility of the official who made the backcourt violation call to change the call. If he refuses to change the call, let it stand and go on.

As to your question as to whether or not you should verbally react to the tip by the defense, do not do it! That is just one more situation where doing too much talking on the floor can get you into trouble.

Dan_ref Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:52pm
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Originally posted by bigwhistle
Blow your whistle so your partner will not quickly put the ball in play. Then go to him/her and relay the information that the ball was tipped in your primary by the defense. If that official does not have other information (such as a subsequent tip by the offense), he/she should change the call and give the ball back to the original offensive team. It is the responsibility of the official who made the backcourt violation call to change the call. If he refuses to change the call, let it stand and go on.

As to your question as to whether or not you should verbally react to the tip by the defense, do not do it! That is just one more situation where doing too much talking on the floor can get you into trouble.
What he said

JugglingReferee Wed Jul 02, 2003 12:59pm
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by bigwhistle
Blow your whistle so your partner will not quickly put the ball in play. Then go to him/her and relay the information that the ball was tipped in your primary by the defense. If that official does not have other information (such as a subsequent tip by the offense), he/she should change the call and give the ball back to the original offensive team. It is the responsibility of the official who made the backcourt violation call to change the call. If he refuses to change the call, let it stand and go on.

As to your question as to whether or not you should verbally react to the tip by the defense, do not do it! That is just one more situation where doing too much talking on the floor can get you into trouble.
What he said
Ya, what he said

ChuckElias Wed Jul 02, 2003 01:13pm
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Originally posted by JugglingReferee
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by bigwhistle
Blow your whistle so your partner will not quickly put the ball in play. Then go to him/her and relay the information that the ball was tipped in your primary by the defense. If that official does not have other information (such as a subsequent tip by the offense), he/she should change the call and give the ball back to the original offensive team. It is the responsibility of the official who made the backcourt violation call to change the call. If he refuses to change the call, let it stand and go on.

As to your question as to whether or not you should verbally react to the tip by the defense, do not do it! That is just one more situation where doing too much talking on the floor can get you into trouble.
What he said
Ya, what he said
What Dan said? Or what bigwhistle said? What?

AK ref SE Wed Jul 02, 2003 01:33pm
WHATS on Second!

Jurassic Referee Wed Jul 02, 2003 01:35pm
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Originally posted by ChuckElias
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Originally posted by JugglingReferee
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by bigwhistle
Blow your whistle so your partner will not quickly put the ball in play. Then go to him/her and relay the information that the ball was tipped in your primary by the defense. If that official does not have other information (such as a subsequent tip by the offense), he/she should change the call and give the ball back to the original offensive team. It is the responsibility of the official who made the backcourt violation call to change the call. If he refuses to change the call, let it stand and go on.

As to your question as to whether or not you should verbally react to the tip by the defense, do not do it! That is just one more situation where doing too much talking on the floor can get you into trouble.
What he said
Ya, what he said
What Dan said? Or what bigwhistle said? What?
Yes!What everybody said!

Dan_ref Wed Jul 02, 2003 02:24pm
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by JugglingReferee
Quote:
Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by bigwhistle
Blow your whistle so your partner will not quickly put the ball in play. Then go to him/her and relay the information that the ball was tipped in your primary by the defense. If that official does not have other information (such as a subsequent tip by the offense), he/she should change the call and give the ball back to the original offensive team. It is the responsibility of the official who made the backcourt violation call to change the call. If he refuses to change the call, let it stand and go on.

As to your question as to whether or not you should verbally react to the tip by the defense, do not do it! That is just one more situation where doing too much talking on the floor can get you into trouble.
What he said
Ya, what he said
What Dan said? Or what bigwhistle said? What?
Yes!What everybody said!
What he said

Stan Wed Jul 02, 2003 02:29pm
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Originally posted by AK ref SE
WHATS on Second!
WHATS is not on the line up card so he can't be on second!

Jurassic Referee Wed Jul 02, 2003 02:53pm
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by JugglingReferee
Quote:
Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by bigwhistle
Blow your whistle so your partner will not quickly put the ball in play. Then go to him/her and relay the information that the ball was tipped in your primary by the defense. If that official does not have other information (such as a subsequent tip by the offense), he/she should change the call and give the ball back to the original offensive team. It is the responsibility of the official who made the backcourt violation call to change the call. If he refuses to change the call, let it stand and go on.

As to your question as to whether or not you should verbally react to the tip by the defense, do not do it! That is just one more situation where doing too much talking on the floor can get you into trouble.
What he said
Ya, what he said
What Dan said? Or what bigwhistle said? What?
Yes!What everybody said!
What he said
What Dan said!

Dan_ref Wed Jul 02, 2003 03:36pm
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:
Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by JugglingReferee
Quote:
Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by bigwhistle
Blow your whistle so your partner will not quickly put the ball in play. Then go to him/her and relay the information that the ball was tipped in your primary by the defense. If that official does not have other information (such as a subsequent tip by the offense), he/she should change the call and give the ball back to the original offensive team. It is the responsibility of the official who made the backcourt violation call to change the call. If he refuses to change the call, let it stand and go on.

As to your question as to whether or not you should verbally react to the tip by the defense, do not do it! That is just one more situation where doing too much talking on the floor can get you into trouble.
What he said
Ya, what he said
What Dan said? Or what bigwhistle said? What?
Yes!What everybody said!
What he said
What Dan said!
What did I say?

Jurassic Referee Wed Jul 02, 2003 03:41pm
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:
Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by JugglingReferee
Quote:
Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by bigwhistle
Blow your whistle so your partner will not quickly put the ball in play. Then go to him/her and relay the information that the ball was tipped in your primary by the defense. If that official does not have other information (such as a subsequent tip by the offense), he/she should change the call and give the ball back to the original offensive team. It is the responsibility of the official who made the backcourt violation call to change the call. If he refuses to change the call, let it stand and go on.

As to your question as to whether or not you should verbally react to the tip by the defense, do not do it! That is just one more situation where doing too much talking on the floor can get you into trouble.
What he said
Ya, what he said
What Dan said? Or what bigwhistle said? What?
Yes!What everybody said!
What he said
What Dan said!
What did I say?
What bigwhistle said!

Mark Dexter Wed Jul 02, 2003 05:56pm
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Originally posted by Stan
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Originally posted by AK ref SE
WHATS on Second!
WHATS is not on the line up card so he can't be on second!

But he can be placed in the book for a T.

I don't know if that's what they want to do, though . . .

mikesears Thu Jul 03, 2003 06:55am
Are you all a bunch of light bulbs? Look at all those WATTS you are using. :)

Andy Thu Jul 03, 2003 10:40am
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by JugglingReferee
Quote:
Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by bigwhistle
Blow your whistle so your partner will not quickly put the ball in play. Then go to him/her and relay the information that the ball was tipped in your primary by the defense. If that official does not have other information (such as a subsequent tip by the offense), he/she should change the call and give the ball back to the original offensive team. It is the responsibility of the official who made the backcourt violation call to change the call. If he refuses to change the call, let it stand and go on.

As to your question as to whether or not you should verbally react to the tip by the defense, do not do it! That is just one more situation where doing too much talking on the floor can get you into trouble.
What he said
Ya, what he said
What Dan said? Or what bigwhistle said? What?
Yes!What everybody said!
What he said
What Dan said!
What did I say?
I don't know!!

Oh, wait....he's on third.


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