Worst Fragrant Call Ever

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Not trying to be a jerk here, but do you honestly think that you could stand there and merely hold your ground with a guy as big as James sprinting at you like that???

No, you have to fade back or put your arms out to absorb the impact, not chuck him with your arms.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

No, you have to fade back or put your arms out to absorb the impact, not chuck him with your arms.

He never actually chucked him b/c the collision caused to go backwards.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

He never actually chucked him b/c the collision caused to go backwards.

Huh??? He many not have chucked him through full arm extension but he was definitely chucking himself into James at the time of contact. It was not major, and probably shouldn't have been flagrant, but it is what he did.

[APG]

That wasn't going to be an offensive foul even without Fisher using his forearm.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

That wasn't going to be an offensive foul even without Fisher using his forearm.

And that is only because he was moving/chucking/lunging toward James at the time of contact. Otherwise, he had LGP. If he had merely limited his movement to the side or backwards, it could have been a charge (at least by NCAA and NFHS rules).

[Adam]

Certainly not flagrant, from my couch, and an easy block given Fisher's forward lunge at contact.

I absolutely love how he shoots his arms straight into the air as the whistle is blown. Classic.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Certainly not flagrant, from my couch, and an easy block given Fisher's forward lunge at contact.

I absolutely love how he shoots his arms straight into the air as the whistle is blown. Classic.

Yep, up in the air, not contacting LBJ, which means there was no justification for a FF1 based on him "chucking"

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Huh??? He many not have chucked him through full arm extension but he was definitely chucking himself into James at the time of contact. It was not major, and probably shouldn't have been flagrant, but it is what he did.

Only if you are deciding to redefine what has always been accepted as the definition of chucking, which is using your arms and extended them INTO an opponent.

What Fischer did is a body bump.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Only if you are deciding to redefine what has always been accepted as the definition of chucking, which is using your arms and extended them INTO an opponent.

What Fischer did is a body bump.

Semantics....I was merely referring to the element of the play where he emphasized and unnecessarily increased the magnitude of impact by throwing, chucking, lunging, or whatever verb you think fits, in to James. I don't limit my definition of chucking to just the arms. I don't think it was flagrant level, but he did basically do what I described. Much harder, and it should have been flagrant.

[JRutledge]

I do not think that was a FF, but I do not think it was a charge either. That is no different than a player in football running at you and then you go and make contact with them to prevent their movement. It is a "block" by the definition in football and certainly was not a legal position in basketball. I think the FF was called because the contact was initiated by Fisher and it was clear he was not playing any basketball but trying to throw his body into LBJ.

Peace

[Al Max]

Everyone seems to be missing the point here. The arm movement definitely resulted from the contact, and it definitely gave the "appearance" of unneccessary contact, otherwise it would have been a straight up charge. So the call was justifiable. No problem from me on that.

But I digress. This boils down to two things.

Number one, Derek gave a clinic on how the rest of OKC should have been defending LaBron the whole series, instead of like a bunch of scared sissy's. Until that play, I was wondering why OKC didn't just roll out a red carpet for LaBron to roll up the lane at will.

Number two, the NBA is becoming sissyfied. I'm not being judgemental, but it's just a fact. If anyone doesn't know what I'm talking about, go look at some youtube footage from the great series of the 80,'s and 90's - Lakers, Detroit, Boston, New York, Indiana, Utah, Chicago. NOBODY got a free pass through the lane. If you weren't quick enough - STAY OUT. Otherwise, expect a good clean hard foul, or finding someone in your way.

Thank you Darek for reminding everyone how defense is supposed to be played. Take note for next year OKC.

[Adam]

Fans are so funny.