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bainsey Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:06pm

A seven-game Saturday
 
I'll be helping out my alma mater's basketball camp next Saturday, seven games in total (starting at 9:40 a.m., finishing at 10:15 p.m.). High school girls of varying ages/abilities, 18-minute halves running time (stop time last minute of first half, last 2 minutes of second half), sudden-death OT.

Generally, 40-minute breaks between games, with one 3-hour break between sessions. The last game is listed as "quick hitters." We'll see exactly what the entails.

I think I'll stay away from plyometrics the day before. :D

A Pennsylvania Coach Fri Jun 15, 2012 01:47pm

I've been at team camps where "special situations", team versus team, were a part of things. We'd be scheduled for an hour on a court, two teams, with 3 or 4 situations to play twice each, like "Team A down by 1 point, 45 seconds left, shooting a one-and-one" (to then be repeated with Team B in that situation), or "Team A down by 3 points, 10 seconds left, frontcourt sideline inbounds". Lots of breaks or "timeouts" to prepare strategy for each different situation. If that's what you have, it should be fun and useful for you and your partner.

grunewar Fri Jun 15, 2012 02:08pm

Seven games in one day is too much for me anymore - wouldn't matter how much time between em. Legs just too tired at the end to give it my all. Five is my absolute limit.

Raymond Fri Jun 15, 2012 02:40pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 846201)
Seven games in one day is too much for me anymore - wouldn't matter how much time between em. Legs just too tired at the end to give it my all. Five is my absolute limit.

AAU I don't do anymore than 3. In camps, even with breaks in between, by the end of my 3rd game I'm shot.

JetMetFan Fri Jun 15, 2012 03:39pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 846208)
AAU I don't do anymore than 3. In camps, even with breaks in between, by the end of my 3rd game I'm shot.

You would've loved the Big East women's camp until the format was changed a few years ago: 8 stop-time games with 18-minute halves over 2½ days (3/3/2). I learned to lie to my feet to tell them they didn't really hurt :)

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Fri Jun 15, 2012 04:18pm

MTD, Jr., and I are officiating a girls' H.S. team shootout tomorrow. Games are scheduled every 45 minutes. Mark and I are scheduled to officiate ten games in a row with a third official. I will do the first two and Mark will do the second two and so forth and he and I will split the last two. That means five games each for Mark and I and $100 each for us ($20 per game, :D). I just hope the gym's AC is running.

MTD, Sr.

amusedofficial Thu Jun 21, 2012 01:20am

Schaeffer City
 
There isn't enough beer in the world to recover from a seven-game, middle-of-summer, No-AC, No-ventilation AAUFest.

bainsey Thu Jun 21, 2012 07:01am

Fortunately, it's not AAU. It's a girls' basketball camp at the university's rec center.

I actually haven't worked any basketball games (only soccer) in about three months, and I've been focusing my exercise on P90X, so I'm eager to see how that results on the court. Oh, I'll have access to a hot tub between sessions. We'll see if that invigorates or sedates.

JBleach85 Thu Jun 21, 2012 07:16am

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Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach (Post 846196)
I've been at team camps where "special situations", team versus team, were a part of things. We'd be scheduled for an hour on a court, two teams, with 3 or 4 situations to play twice each, like "Team A down by 1 point, 45 seconds left, shooting a one-and-one" (to then be repeated with Team B in that situation), or "Team A down by 3 points, 10 seconds left, frontcourt sideline inbounds". Lots of breaks or "timeouts" to prepare strategy for each different situation. If that's what you have, it should be fun and useful for you and your partner.

Sounds like one of the camps I've been to in Northwestern part of PA. It was a good college camp. I remember doing those special situations and they have helped me during the season in close games as how to pregame those situations and getting different perspective of things.

Scuba_ref Thu Jun 21, 2012 09:17am

Good shoes and dry socks
 
I find that it really helps if I change my socks every game or two and my shoes. I did 10 games on Saturday. Two 20-minute halves, running clock until the last 2 minutes of the 2nd half. I did 6 then a 2 hour break and then 4 more. My legs felt great - having good shoes makes all the difference in the world. And by good shoes I mean Reebok Zigs. My Nike Air Monarchs and my other (can't think of the name) Reeboks all feel like wooden clogs when compared to my Zigs.

Maineac Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:43am

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 846804)
Fortunately, it's not AAU. It's a girls' basketball camp at the university's rec center.

I actually haven't worked any basketball games (only soccer) in about three months, and I've been focusing my exercise on P90X, so I'm eager to see how that results on the court. Oh, I'll have access to a hot tub between sessions. We'll see if that invigorates or sedates.

Look sharp, bainsey, I'll be there spectating :)

bainsey Thu Jun 21, 2012 01:41pm

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Originally Posted by Maineac (Post 846835)
Look sharp, bainsey, I'll be there spectating :)

Could you do so for games 1 or 2, rather than 6 or 7? :D

Your introduction is now mandatory, y'know.

Maineac Thu Jun 21, 2012 01:46pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 846883)
Could you do so for games 1 or 2, rather than 6 or 7? :D

Your introduction is now mandatory, y'know.

Yes sir, I will limit my spectating and all I will say is "Hello."

26 Year Gap Thu Jun 21, 2012 09:12pm

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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 846201)
Seven games in one day is too much for me anymore - wouldn't matter how much time between em. Legs just too tired at the end to give it my all. Five is my absolute limit.

Yup. Did 6 once. 5 is the limit.

KMBReferee Thu Jun 21, 2012 09:42pm

This weekend I'm working NC State's camp.

9 games each on Fri and Sat. Probably 5 on Sunday. Split up into three 3-game sessions. They feed us lunch and dinner between the sessions.

Piece of cake. I do it every year. Carolina's (Hatchell's camp) too. Not bad money either.

Maineac Sun Jun 24, 2012 08:27pm

Sorry I missed you, bainsey. My daughter got injured the night before camp so we didn't make the trip. Hope camp went well for you.

bainsey Mon Jun 25, 2012 01:01am

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Originally Posted by Maineac (Post 847188)
Sorry I missed you, bainsey. My daughter got injured the night before camp so we didn't make the trip.

Not as sorry as I am to hear that. I hope she recovers well and soon.

Overall, things went well. Zero problems with the kids; very minimal BS from the coaches. It was interesting that the university had us fill out W-4s for payment. One of my partners wondered aloud if getting on payroll allows us tuition discounts.

Just a couple of little notables...

Game 3: I had an easy PC foul right in front of the offensive team's bench. Our mechanic is to get the fist up, PAUSE, then give the signal (hand behind the head). The coach first asked me if I knew or if was I thinking, and three seconds later, told his player she was out of control! (So, I guess he knew.)

Game 5: Team A is up 7 points in the last minute, with the ball. A's coach calls a 30-second time-out. Okay, interesting timing for hat. Suddenly, I notice UMaine's head coach take over the Team A bench, and ask me where the throw-in was. I point to the spot, about five feet from the division line, opposite side. He asks to move it to the free-throw line extended.

My brain's first thought was, great, here's another guy I have to explain that rule doesn't exist.... oh, wait, I'm at a camp. "No problem, coach."

The 30-second time out became 90 easily. Again, it's a camp, and these girls are learning from a Division I coach. Let's see what happens.

I bounce to ball to A-1 for the throw-in, B-2 is guarding, and B-2 immediately steals the throw-in and goes the other way. All that set-up for that!

However, after I take position on the opposite end line, my partner, the new trail, calls a five-second violation on B-3, table-side near the division line.

"Run the play again!" the head coach immediately yells. Sure, why not? I go back to the free throw-line extended, opposite side: Lob throw-in, tall center catches it in the lane, and makes the easy lay-in, a good last-second play learned.

At the buzzer, my partner let B-3 know she didn't dribble it for five seconds; he was looking for a way to run that play again.

"Oh," says B-3. "Okay, cool."


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