You Make The Call: Pass And Crash

[APG]

[Camron Rust]

1st view...block...and count the basket.

2nd view....same.

3rd view...same.

[Scrapper1]

Block, not sure about the basket. Hard to tell if he started the motion. Probably would give the benefit of the doubt to the shooter.

[JugglingReferee]

Block and count it.

[bainsey]

I see things differently here. What did the defender do wrong?

[canuckrefguy]

Block. No basket.

Defender moved into the passer.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Block, not sure about the basket. Hard to tell if he started the motion. Probably would give the benefit of the doubt to the shooter.

Keep in mind that the ball has to be released by the shooter (not simply starting the act of shooting) when a teammate commits a foul in order for the basket to count.

If you think about it, the timing of these type of plays almost NEVER allows for this basket to count.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Block, not sure about the basket. Hard to tell if he started the motion. Probably would give the benefit of the doubt to the shooter.

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

Keep in mind that the ball has to be released by the shooter (not simply starting the act of shooting) when a teammate commits a foul in order for the basket to count.

If you think about it, the timing of these type of plays almost NEVER allows for this basket to count.

Except (if you have a block), the foul is by an opponent of the shooter and the cutoff point is being in the act, not the release.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Except (if you have a block), the foul is by an opponent of the shooter and the cutoff point is being in the act, not the release.

How'bout we just focus on the topic of this thread, the corresponding video in OP, and assume that is what my post was commenting on?

When we get to a discussion of block/charge, I'll agree with you on the exception to the Dead Ball rule.....

For the purposes of this thread...I'll repeat myself: the ball handler who makes a pass (in a pass-n-crash plays) virtually ALWAYS commits the foul before the receiver of his pass releases the ball. You will almost never count the basket in this type of play.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

Keep in mind that the ball has to be released by the shooter (not simply starting the act of shooting) when a teammate commits a foul in order for the basket to count.

If you think about it, the timing of these type of plays almost NEVER allows for this basket to count.

Scrapper says he has a block on this play, so how would the release be relevant to your response to him?

[Toren]

I got a block, basket is good.

Hated the mechanic by the lead, loved the hold on the mechanic by the C.

Now college rules are different than high school rules in how we adjudicate (if the call had been as I described?)?

Good play.

[Jeremy Hohn]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

Keep in mind that the ball has to be released by the shooter (not simply starting the act of shooting) when a teammate commits a foul in order for the basket to count.

If you think about it, the timing of these type of plays almost NEVER allows for this basket to count.

I was thinking the same thing. And MAN does that lead need to SLOW DOWN HIS MECHANICS. Too much Starbucks. Must have been an 8:00 a.m. tip..

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

1st view...block...and count the basket.

I've clearly not had my head in basketball at all because at first I thought you were crazy on both points but after reading the discussion here, realized I wasn't looking at this right.

[JetMetFan]

At first glance: no call and let them play through. For me it looked like the defender embellished the contact...probably because he was moving into the offensive player's path when contact was made.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I have a block by Green because he stepped to his left with his left foot into White's path after White had releashed his path.

MTD, Sr.