Travel or "looks bad" video

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Why or Why not was this a good call??

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BillyMac

jump stop wrote
Why or Why not was this a good call??

White 22 blocks our view of the ball handler's pivot foot. The lead official, without White 22 blocking his view, must have observed an extra step that we can't see.

rockyroad

Watch his left foot...

Rob1968

At first, I thought this must be a bad call, that it was a classic jump-stop, NF 4-44-2 a 3, (control in the air, come down on one foot, followed by landing on both feet simultaneously.)
Then, having watched the video a few more times, I noticed that it appears that he dragged the tip of his right foot, between the landing on the left and the subsequent landing on both.
That would justify the travel call, NF 4-44-2 a 2. If that's what the Lead saw, it was a correct call, IMO.

Mark Padgett

The official isn't going to call a travel just because it "looks bad". I had a game a few years ago in which coach A kept saying I should "call something" on B1 who was the other team's point guard because when he dribbled, his dribble "looked ugly". I told coach A that if "looking ugly" was against the rules, he wouldn't be allowed in the gym.

We were friends and he just laughed.

APG

I can't tell either way if the call is correct or not due to the quality of the clip.

Camron Rust

I would not have a travel on what I saw.

JRutledge

You cannot see what he does with the pivot foot from the angle of the camera. The official of course has a different angle. Who knows if he actually got it right or not.

Peace

jump stop

Camron Rust wrote
I would not have a travel on what I saw.

That is my take, I didn't see a violation . Video not the best but looks like good move

bainsey

Legal play. Left foot is the pivot foot, jumped from it to simultaneouly both feet landing.

APG

bainsey wrote
Legal play. Left foot is the pivot foot, jumped from it to simultaneouly both feet landing.

The left foot isn't the pivot foot...assuming this is a legal play, and assuming you believe he gathered the ball with the left foot on the floor, the player hasn't established a pivot foot and with him jumping off the foot and landing simultaneously he has no pivot foot.

bainsey

AllPurposeGamer wrote
assuming you believe he gathered the ball with the left foot on the floor....

Right, that's what I have.

So, of course, there's no pivot foot on a jump stop, but prior to the jump, what's a succinct and correct way of saying "the left was the pivot foot" (or is this about tense..."was" as opposed to "is")?

BillyMac

bainsey wrote
So, of course, there's no pivot foot on a jump stop, but prior to the jump, what's a succinct and correct way of saying "the left was the pivot foot" (or is this about tense..."was" as opposed to "is")?

Looks like bainsey is trying out his Bill Clinton impersonation again.

APG

bainsey wrote
Right, that's what I have.

So, of course, there's no pivot foot on a jump stop, but prior to the jump, what's a succinct and correct way of saying "the left was the pivot foot" (or is this about tense..."was" as opposed to "is")?

The player gathered the ball/ended his dribble with his left foot on the floor.

bainsey

BillyMac wrote
Looks like bainsey is trying out his Bill Clinton impersonation again.

The sad truth is, I actually didn't have sexual relations with that woman.

APG, if the "player gathered the ball/ended his dribble with his left foot on the floor," wouldn't that left foot be the pivot foot (until the jump stop, of course)?

APG

bainsey wrote
The sad truth is, I actually didn't have sexual relations with that woman.

APG, if the "player gathered the ball/ended his dribble with his left foot on the floor," wouldn't that left foot be the pivot foot (until the jump stop, of course)?

Whether or not he has a pivot foot depends on his subsequent actions...he won't establish a pivot foot until his/her second foot touches the floor

NFHS (2011-2012)
Rule 4 Section 44 Traveling

ART. 2 . . . A player, who catches the ball while moving or dribbling, may stop, and establish a pivot foot as follows:

b. If one foot is on the floor:
1. It is the pivot when the other foot touches in a step.

I'm sure you have no issues with determining the pivot foot, so this is just a small thing about semantics. 😛

BillyMac

bainsey wrote
The sad truth is, I actually didn't have sexual relations with that woman.

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."