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Old Thu May 10, 2012, 10:40pm
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Celtics/Hawks: Marquis Daniels's last foul

For those who saw the closing seconds of Game 6 of the Atlanta/Boston series, who dares to have an intentional foul (at any level) on Marquis Daniels in the closing seconds?

(APG... is video possible?)
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Old Thu May 10, 2012, 11:46pm
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Old Fri May 11, 2012, 04:00am
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And I wouldn't have anything other than a foul (if we're talking about NFHS/NCAA rules). Depending on when the official decided the contact was illegal, this very well could have been an away-from-the-play foul. It was close, and if in doubt, I think the right thing is to rule this a common foul.

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Old Fri May 11, 2012, 04:46am
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Basic common foul in NFHS and NCAA.

The biggest thing I noticed was the horrible screen Smith set on Pierce at the top of the key at the beginning of the play. It knocked Pierce into a path about 4-5 feet farther around than he would have had to go without the screen moving into his path and continuing to move after contact.

Looks like, from the angle of the heads, that neither the C nor the T were looking at it. The T was looking at the play on his corner of the FT lane and the C was looking at another matchup near the middle of the FT line.

The only possible reason to not call it, if they did actually see it, is that it was going away from the ball and there was no immediate play that was going to develop from it.
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Old Fri May 11, 2012, 08:40am
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Common foul in Fed.

This is an unsportmanlike foul in FIBA. It's under 2 minutes in the 4th, and the thrower-in hasn't released the ball yet. 2 shots + ball at DL.
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Old Fri May 11, 2012, 10:31pm
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Thanks, APG, but this isn't the foul I had in mind. I believe it's the one right after it, where there's pretty close to a bear hug during an attempted layup.
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Old Sat May 12, 2012, 04:10am
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The NBA bores me to tears....and I live in Atlanta so I should care.
Well then, I'd figured you'd avoid an NBA thread since it "bores [you] to tears."
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Old Sat May 12, 2012, 05:57am
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The NBA bores me to tears....and I live in Atlanta so I should care.
The fact you live in Atlanta explains why you don't

I lived there for three years in the late '90s working for CNN/SI. I was there for the Knicks/Hawks series in '99. Before game one we received an e-mail from Turner corporate. Anyone who took their Turner/CNN ID to the Georgia Dome box office was given four free tickets to every Hawks' home game!

Now that's what I call an NBA town!
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Here's what the League had to say about the foul...

NBA: Late foul called incorrectly against Celtics in Game 6 | NBA.com
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Thanks, APG, but this isn't the foul I had in mind. I believe it's the one right after it, where there's pretty close to a bear hug during an attempted layup.
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Old Sat May 12, 2012, 11:19pm
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You the man, APG. That's the foul.

Intentional, anyone?

(And by the way, shouldn't APG get a crummy t-shirt or something? This video work is invaluable.)
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Old Sun May 13, 2012, 03:12am
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You the man, APG. That's the foul.

Intentional, anyone?

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Nah...shooting foul for me, regardless of the code. Nothing excessive there, though I'd have been inclined to make the call on the entry pass.

Of course, Atlanta does have reason to complain since the NBA said the previous play - the first one APG posted - was called incorrectly.
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Old Mon May 14, 2012, 06:14pm
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You the man, APG. That's the foul.

Intentional, anyone?

(And by the way, shouldn't APG get a crummy t-shirt or something? This video work is invaluable.)
I wouldn't upgrade the play to an intentional foul.
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I think by definition you could find an intentional foul there but I'm not sure my assigners would support making that one.
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