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Use it or toss it
First of all, forgive me if this info is not of value to YOU & also if YOU dont think the info is "worth the money." My hopes are that the info will assist one of our own in improving & help get somebody picked up this summer!!
Ok, so we know what our PCAs are, http://api.smugmug.com/services/embe...425&height=318 but since spins & pivots changes the open look in coverage areas so quickly... http://api.smugmug.com/services/embe...425&height=318 we have to team officiate in todays game vs. territorial PCA officiating in the days of old. For the "let em live & die" folks out there, notice the emphasis on "ready to help." http://api.smugmug.com/services/embe...425&height=318 |
Good, albeit, basic info. Good to hear and see the concepts even though most 3rd or 4th year officials should have these ingrained in their DNA.
The toughest part for me was the camera work. Yikes. The host should have spent some money and hired a professional. This looks like he pulled a camper out of the audience and told him to film everything he saw. |
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IMO this is because officials use this as a license to watch the ball all over the court. The next time you are in a basketball environment (pre-game, camp, etc.) ask an official a leading question about one of these concepts and see what you get. Many officials will not have a real clue as to what they mean. |
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I am a newer official and appreciate these videos and posts.
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The couple of times I listened to my friends give feedback the most prevalent criticism was officials putting whistles on plays that the primary laid off or had a patient whistle on. For the newbie official, she said it was a great learning experience and #1 she really needs to learn what everyone's primary is. And the only negative reaction she got from fellow officials was when she made calls outside of her primary. IMO, "helping a partner"/"team officiating"/"making a call outside of their PCA for the good of the game" are things that can't be done effectively and with acceptance from veteran officials until one has truly mastered the respective PCAs and shown that they can handle their 1/3 with no worries. |
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2. When I initially began sharing these things (that some claim they already knew :rolleyes:) I didnt go to the old school card or do any name dropping until folks began acting as if I was crazy for mentioning these NBA philosophies. 3. If I didnt like the delivery of a person but the stuff they were delivering was substantial, I'm not going to object to it just because the delivery wasnt nice & sweet. There's nothing nice & sweet about what we do... Quote:
Problem with some veterans is that they want you to ref your 3rd & your 3rd only even when they missed something obvious. Back in his prime, I guess it used to mean you were showing him up. In todays game, you say thanks & buy the man a beer! |
tref, for the most part I agree with you that todays game requires team officiating and sometimes coming out of your primary to get a call. I think the problem you face is that it seems like you think this is something that should happen often, whereas even those who agree with you on the philosophy think the practice of this principle occurs less frequently. If I am not mistaken, the last time you tried to invoke this principle, you came in from a pretty substantial distance and overturned a partners call. While you argued that you had a better angle than your partner, which is probably true, I think most people felt having a better angle in that case did not necessarily mean you had a better view. I think the more important part of the tape was when he talked about the referees constantly adjusting their position and moving their feet. In the example used, if the lead gets his *** over to the strong side, he would have a good view of the play on the pivot or spin and wouldnt need the center to come in and make a call.
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So, who decides when someone has mastered their 1/3rd of the court? I haven't mastered mine yet so my partners are going to live and die with anything smaller than an elephant in their primary. If it is an elephant, I will help. IMO, THAT is the key. Too many people are so eager to call all over the court that they miss two players killing each other right in front of them. |
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misdemeanors and not felonies) and that is where supervisors start to scratch their head as to why he is blowing his whistle.. I love team officiating when it involves maybe the C helping on a 10 sec count with a lot of back court pressure, but I can tell you if you take that concept north of the Mason Dixon you will have a tough time getting in leagues...... There is such a fine line as to when to extend and not to extend.....hopefully one day I will master this concept |
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Also, teaching these techniques to newer officials is counterproductive for reasons BNR stated; and since this forum is made of a mixture of rookies, ancients, and everything in between, some of the vets take care to make sure your advanced advice is not taken incorrectly by rookies. Your "old school" cliches were dropped at the first sign of rejection, it seems. You make a comment, and someone objects, and your first response is to suggest the game has passed them by. Telling it as you see it is one thing, but that doesn't mean it's how it is. |
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Shoot, just noticed that one my boys is in the video also. Guess I do have access to this info after all...LOL |
The only time I "cringe" about this is when I hear a partner say that they called something right in front of me because it was a "crew call" or they were "helping me out". In almost every case, they called an on-ball foul in a one-on-one situation right in front of me (or a partner) when I had a great look at it and passed. Those words are often used to cover up the fact that they screwed up and made a call they never should have...
When a partner comes and gets a travel while I am locked on contact between the post players, or gets a secondary defender who whacked the shooter on a curl play - those calls are awesome. Those truly are "crew calls" and no one cringes at those. But we have all worked with people who use the cute little terms they picked up at camp as an excuse for screwing things up on the court. So - we cringe at times. |
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Thanks for the videos. I learned something! Good stuff to think about.
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I understand what Rocky & some others are saying... there's no need for team officiating concepts on a one on one matchups.
I agree that these concepts may give lesser experienced officials a reason to ball watch, but thats why the discussion started out by defining PCAs & then shows when & why 2 sets of eyes should be on the ball. |
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Saying the eyes should be "on the ball" opens the door to too many potential problems. |
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But to each his or her own, the post was titled "use it or toss it" for a reason... |
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