Like I said, it is an individual's interpretation of what "faking being fouled" means.

Actually, you did: "No definitive definition."

Still, much of this is about ThatGuyPhobia. A lot of people are afraid of be the first dude on the dance floor. I've had other officials say to me, "I'd call it, if other officials would." And then, we go home, watch a game, and complain about the flop they just saw on TV. And we wonder why we see it more often.

I suppose, but why would you? Why wouldn't you hold the point of impact? Wouldn't that make a more effective sell?

It appears we have a difference in context. I judge the actions on the court, and interpret the wording of the rules.

Maybe A1 has gotten away with an elbow earlier and B1 wants to make sure the official notice this time?

Judge/interpret, choose the words you want, but what I consider "faking being fouled" means there has to be no contact. Would I be wrong? If so, on what basis?

If this issue is such a problem, why no POE about this ever?

Peace

I feel the same way. I have only seen it once in my career and I was more stunned that was done and I am not sure it was a rule then.

Peace

Every Party Has A Pooper ...
 

Spoil sport.

Kick The Can ...
 

Good point, especially in regard to "Fashion Police" issues.

Well, let's break it down. What led you to that conclusion?

Why do I have to break it down? That's what I judge to be faking a foul, no contact involved. You may disagree with my interpretation, but you can't tell me I'm wrong based on anything in the rule book or case book. You only have your interpretation which I would have no basis to say is incorrect either.

Which comes to my point, without further guidance it's strictly up to individual officials, assignors, or state organizations to determine what "faking being fouled" means and it's arrogant for any individual to say their interpretation is "clearly" how the rule should be viewed and adjudicated. (not saying that's what you are doing)

Of course all this is just rhetorical for me because there is no epidemic of flopping or faking being fouled anywhere I work.

+1000

Peace

I'm not BNR, and I'm not going to "break it down," but I will state that to me, in order to fake something, you have to know it didn't happen. IOW, for a player to truly fake being fouled, they have to know they weren't fouled. I'm not convinced players don't think they're fouled every time they get touched.

No...they have to do something that wasn't caused by the contact that is intended to make others believe it was caused by the contact.

I'm amazed at all the cleverness people go through in trying to ambiguate a very simple word to as a way to justify not calling this T. I'm OK with not calling the T but at least be honest with yourself about why we're not calling it. To say you don't know what the word "fake" means is a lazy cop out.

Next thing you know, we'll be debating the meaning of "is". :eek:

So A1 is driving to the basket and jumps to shoot his layin. B4 runs past him and takes a big swing but misses. A1 yells and then falls to the floor as the ball goes through the basket. You immediately call the T on A1, right?

Because, you requested a "basis" to disprove your theory. That assumes you have a basis to prove it. It cuts both ways.