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Sharpshooternes Sat Apr 14, 2012 02:56am

Legal moving screen
 
Can someone explain or post a video of a legal moving screen mentioned in C below? Thanks.

ART. 2

To establish a legal screening position:

a. The screener may face any direction.

b. Time and distance are relevant.

c. The screener must be stationary, except when both are moving in the same path and the same direction.

d. The screener must stay within his/her vertical plane with a stance approximately shoulder width apart.

just another ref Sat Apr 14, 2012 03:49am

Basically it's overstating the fact that if A1 is running down the court and B1 runs up his back, the foul can only be on B1.

APG Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:39pm

Throw-in after a made basket...tight pressure on the ballhandler full court. You'll see the inbounder walk down the court with the dribbler using him as a screen. Since the screener and the defender will be moving the same direction, if there's contact, it's still a legal screen...even with the screener moving.

Adam Sat Apr 14, 2012 02:31pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 837382)
Throw-in after a made basket...tight pressure on the ballhandler full court. You'll see the inbounder walk down the court with the dribbler using him as a screen. Since the screener and the dribbler are moving the same direction, if there's contact, it's still a legal screen...even with the screener moving.

Disagree. If the defender stops, the screener can't just run him over.

APG Sat Apr 14, 2012 04:25pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 837387)
Disagree. If the defender stops, the screener can't just run him over.

Never said the defender stopped.

berserkBBK Sat Apr 14, 2012 04:40pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 837387)
Disagree. If the defender stops, the screener can't just run him over.

If the defender stops then they aren't moving in the same direction. Contact made is fault of the player in the back, Generally.

Raymond Sat Apr 14, 2012 05:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 837382)
Throw-in after a made basket...tight pressure on the ballhandler full court. You'll see the inbounder walk down the court with the dribbler using him as a screen. Since the screener and the dribbler are moving the same direction, if there's contact, it's still a legal screen...even with the screener moving.

Think you are incorrect here. jar's post fits the play in question.

Adam Sat Apr 14, 2012 06:10pm

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Originally Posted by berserkBBK (Post 837390)
If the defender stops then they aren't moving in the same direction. Contact made is fault of the player in the back, Generally.

Which is not the play APG talks about. And even if the defender slows down in his example, the screener is responsible because he's in back.

BktBallRef Sat Apr 14, 2012 09:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 837382)
Throw-in after a made basket...tight pressure on the ballhandler full court. You'll see the inbounder walk down the court with the dribbler using him as a screen. Since the screener and the dribbler are moving the same direction, if there's contact, it's still a legal screen...even with the screener moving.

That's not at all what the rule is saying.

You're saying if the screener and the ballhandler are moving in the same direction.

The rule is stating that the screener and the defender (player being screened) are moving in the same direction.

APG Sat Apr 14, 2012 09:38pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 837406)
That's not at all what the rule is saying.

You're saying if the screener and the ballhandler are moving in the same direction.

The rule is stating that the screener and the defender (player being screened) are moving in the same direction.

See, I had the situation in my head correct...and worded it incorrectly haha :o

refiator Sat Apr 14, 2012 09:45pm

I hate the term "Moving Screen". The defender can move all he wants to short of contact. How many times do we hear coaches (and fans) yelling for a "moving screen" when no contact occurs?
Let's stick to "Illegal Screen". :)

Adam Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:00pm

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Originally Posted by refiator (Post 837409)
I hate the term "Moving Screen". The defender can move all he wants to short of contact. How many times do we hear coaches (and fans) yelling for a "moving screen" when no contact occurs?
Let's stick to "Illegal Screen". :)

And contact doesn't always make a moving screen illegal.

Camron Rust Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:11am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 837382)
Throw-in after a made basket...tight pressure on the ballhandler full court. You'll see the inbounder walk down the court with the dribbler using him as a screen. Since the screener and the defender will be moving the same direction, if there's contact, it's still a legal screen...even with the screener moving.

This is really only a valid example if the defender is following the screener and that is not like the case in this situation. If the screener is following the defender and there is contact, the screener has fouled.

A better example....

Fast break. A4 running/jogging/walking straight down the court in line with the right lane line. A1 slashing from the sideline to the right block. B1 is racing down the court, also in line with the right lane line, in an attempt to get to A1 but runs into a moving A4 and is prevented from reaching A1. Legal screen.

Camron Rust Mon Apr 16, 2012 04:39pm

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Originally Posted by mdray (Post 837588)
:confused: did you mean B1 runs into A4? ;)

I did (fixed).


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