Back court heat bulls game

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Don't we have plenty of questionable calls in the NCAA tournament every year? Do you say "I truly have no idea what they see/don't see in the NCAA tournament"?

No I don't. I was speaking metaphorically. It's more of indictment of the philosophy of calls in the NBE

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by fullor30

No I don't. I was speaking metaphorically. It's more of indictment of the philosophy of calls in the NBE

I understand what you are saying, but I would think your question would be more relavent as it applies to fouls.

In this case (I haven't seen the play nor do I know the exact language for the NBA backcourt rule) it seems like what we may have is a brain fart by an official.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I understand what you are saying, but I would think your question would be more relavent as it applies to fouls.

In this case (I haven't seen the play nor do I know the exact language for the NBA backcourt rule) it seems like what we may have is a brain fart by an official.

Disagree, number one complaint is failure to call travel wouldn't you agree.

I'm seeing more and more brain farts. This call wouldn't be palatable in a 7yr old rec league.

[tref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

This call wouldn't be palatable in a 7yr old rec league.

You sir, must be a darn good official!

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by tref

You sir, must be a darn good official!

I'll bite, what makes you say that?

[tref]

Originally Posted by fullor30

I'll bite, what makes you say that?

The previous comment I quoted by you seems extremely critical of the no-call. How often have you seen a rolled throw-in make it into the f/c untouched?

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by tref

The previous comment I quoted by you seems extremely critical of the no-call. How often have you seen a rolled throw-in make it into the f/c untouched?

And that has what to do with backcourt violation?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Disagree, number one complaint is failure to call travel wouldn't you agree.

I'm seeing more and more brain farts. This call wouldn't be palatable in a 7yr old rec league.

The NBA has different travelling rules than the NCAA and FED. And we have seen plenty of video posted right here in this forum showing NCAA officials failing to enforce obvious travelling violations. And we've also seen plenty of examples of NCAA officials incorrectly calling BC violations that did not occur.

So again, do you make the same statement about NCAA officials as you would NBA officials?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

So again, do you make the same statement about NCAA officials as you would NBA officials?

We don't at all. That is the part I do not understand either. We have certainly in the past month have shown a lot of questionable decisions by NCAA officials and no one said they did so based on entertainment. I guess it always bothers me when that is said because no one says NFL or MLB are doing things for entertainment when they have similar differences in philosophies based on the fact that they are pros and not amateur game.

Peace

[IUgrad92]

What other league or level of basketball would allow this type of play to happen? My contention would be that it is more likely to see this type of play allowed night in and night out in the NBA and not so much in the NCAA.

Are the rules in the NBA, as such, so that it's that difficult to recognize the pivot foot?

Corey Maggette travels six times in 1 play - YouTube

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

What other league or level of basketball would allow this type of play to happen? My contention would be that it is more likely to see this type of play allowed night in and night out in the NBA and not so much in the NCAA.

Are the rules in the NBA, as such, so that it's that difficult to recognize the pivot foot?

Corey Maggette travels six times in 1 play - YouTube

Well, we know that Austin Rivers is allowed to travel and I think all past videos of egregious travels in NCAA games involved either Duke players or Tyler Hansbrough so me thinks it might be more of a Tar Heel/Blue Devil travel exception that applies to basketball universally.

[tref]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

What other league or level of basketball would allow this type of play to happen? My contention would be that it is more likely to see this type of play allowed night in and night out in the NBA and not so much in the NCAA.

Are the rules in the NBA, as such, so that it's that difficult to recognize the pivot foot?

Corey Maggette travels six times in 1 play - YouTube

IDK whats funniest, the 6 travels or complaining about the foul.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

What other league or level of basketball would allow this type of play to happen? My contention would be that it is more likely to see this type of play allowed night in and night out in the NBA and not so much in the NCAA.

Are the rules in the NBA, as such, so that it's that difficult to recognize the pivot foot?

Corey Maggette travels six times in 1 play - YouTube

What about the missed holding foul as Maggette is catching the ball or the handcheck that causes one of Maggette's travels?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

Are the rules in the NBA, as such, so that it's that difficult to recognize the pivot foot?

Corey Maggette travels six times in 1 play - YouTube

My son tells me ESPN's NOT Top Ten today had Lebron taking six steps from the top of the key before getting fouled....said he carried the ball like a football. Haven't found THAT video yet. But, I'm a lookin!

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

We don't at all. That is the part I do not understand either. We have certainly in the past month have shown a lot of questionable decisions by NCAA officials and no one said they did so based on entertainment. I guess it always bothers me when that is said because no one says NFL or MLB are doing things for entertainment when they have similar differences in philosophies based on the fact that they are pros and not amateur game.

Peace

The NBA has explicitly modified rules with the purpose of increasing scoring...targeting their viewing audiences wishes. I don't think the NFL has necessarily done so to the same degree. (I don't watch baseball so I can't comment there). Some of the NFL football rules actually are counter to increased scoring (e.g., 2 feet down vs 1 foot down on a sideline reception...making it more difficult to advance the ball).

The indictment is more about the NBA as a league and not the officials. I have no doubt that the officials are doing a great job calling the game as they're hired to do. The league just has a different goal in how they want the game called...and the officials do the job they're hired to do.