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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 07:50am
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Call on the court = Play on. Doris Burke agreed :) What's your opinion?

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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 08:09am
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Looks like a charge. Defender doesn't do anything wrong.
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 08:27am
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No problem with the playon here. The defender clearly leans( surpasses verticality) into the path of the ball handler after she is airborne.

The question I have is. Where is the T?
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 09:09am
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No problem with the playon here. The defender clearly leans( surpasses verticality) into the path of the ball handler after she is airborne.

The question I have is. Where is the T?
I agree with your statement that this would have been a block since defender leans forward.

High Altitude got the T bending over full court, huffing and puffing.
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 09:12am
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No problem with the playon here. The defender clearly leans( surpasses verticality) into the path of the ball handler after she is airborne.

The question I have is. Where is the T?
Agreed. If the Defensive player hadn't advanced her position, the offense had already stopped her momentum and their would have been no collision.
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 09:14am
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I agree with your statement that this would have been a block since defender leans forward.

High Altitude got the T bending over full court, huffing and puffing.
The first time I saw it, I had a PC. The second time, I had a PC. The third time, I had a PC. Yeah, the defender leans a little to brace for contact, but she doesn't create any contact that wasn't happening anyway.

Now, after seeing it in slow motion a few times, I changed my mind. The defender's lean creates contact. Had she remained vertical, the shooter would have landed short of contact, IMO.

I'd like to think I would got it right on the court, but I don't know.

I don't give a rats a$$ what Burke thinks, though.

Altitude? In Denver? Pshaw!
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 10:26am
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Cant say that I liked the no call as the defender clearly (obvious) leans forward into the shooter.
As I look deeper at the "whys" I can understand the no call.
Steal in the b/c probably has the old new L (now the new T) somewhere around the division line.
Tough to get back when busting it to the other end that quickly!
The C has no look whatsoever & the L is set up good for lateral movement.
Good discipline by the crew.
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 10:56am
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Who is Doris Burke? Is that someone who I should know?
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 11:54am
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Defender does lean forward to create what is really minor contact but does not disadvantage the shooter in any way....no call OK, but a block would be OK too.
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 12:22pm
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The defender never stops coming forward. I have a block, but I do not think on this kind of play you can have a no-call. And I am a person that usually judges these plays as charges as a default, but the defender clearly did not stop coming forward from this angle.

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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 12:23pm
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The defender never stops coming forward. I have a block, but I do not think on this kind of play you can have a no-call. And I am a person that usually judges these plays as charges as a default, but the defender clearly did not stop coming forward from this angle.

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I think I'd go with a block here but could see a no call.
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 12:41pm
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I like the no-call here. Defender leaned out of vertical plane to create contact. The L seems to have best view and positioning here. If she saw the lean and opted to pass on the whistle, that's a pretty good piece of officiating IMHO.

P.S. Whatever Doris Burke says...the opposite is usually true. I'd like to watch a game with her and Clark Kellog doing commentary. They could conceivably get EVERY whistle wrong between the two of them.
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This is a no-call or a block.

I don't like these types of leans, so I tend to call a block. But at the higher levels, this is easily a no-call.
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Old Fri Apr 06, 2012, 12:48pm
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With the pictures given, who makes the call?
The Lead or the Center could call this. The Trail could but they are probably too far as it seems like a quick change or transition.

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