Video: Not a travel in NBA, but would you call this a travel in HS or NCAA

[JRutledge]

Oh God no!!! No way I am calling that live, nor would I be sure.

Peace

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Oh God no!!! No way I am calling that live, nor would I be sure.

+1 - emphatically

[just another ref]

I think it is difficult to impossible to say what one might have called or not called when one watches a play in real time after watching that same play in slow motion.

The question is, after seeing the slow motion which proves the violation, are you still saying this travel should not be called because it

"isn't obvious enough?"

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I think it is difficult to impossible to say what one might have called or not called when one watches a play in real time after watching that same play in slow motion.

The question is, after seeing the slow motion which proves the violation, are you still saying this travel should not be called because it

"isn't obvious enough?"

Yes.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I think it is difficult to impossible to say what one might have called or not called when one watches a play in real time after watching that same play in slow motion.

The question is, after seeing the slow motion which proves the violation, are you still saying this travel should not be called because it

"isn't obvious enough?"

Some will not call traveling unless they're getting frequent flier miles. :0

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I think it is difficult to impossible to say what one might have called or not called when one watches a play in real time after watching that same play in slow motion.

The question is, after seeing the slow motion which proves the violation, are you still saying this travel should not be called because it

"isn't obvious enough?"

Yes. Call the obvious all the time.

Peace

[Jeremy Hohn]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

+1 - emphatically

+2

[Adam]

I can tell you, after watching this in full speed, I would have called it. Is it possible my opinion is shaded by having watched the slow motion? Sure, but it looks pretty obvious to me

[tref]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

And should I assume you'll be calling NCAA men's basketball, NCAAE, since as you put it, you saw a valid travel situation every trip down the court? I mean they've also added the RA as well as some other absolutes that mimic some NBA philosophies.

Wait til next season! More NBA principles will be added to the NCAA game...

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Some will not call traveling unless they're getting frequent flier miles. :0

And some will call travels even when they didnt really happen.

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by jesse james

for the play in question;

in 1982, sixth graders at recess would call it on themselves, "my bad, i travelled--fifth graders' ball."

in 1992, you'd punch your striped partner at halftime for missing it, and then punch yourself for not picking it up.

In 2002, you'd run it back in slow motion for verification, remind yourself what it looked like in real time, and vow to adjust accordingly on future similar plays if you missed it

in 2012, you couldn't be certain because the players are so stout and fast, and besides, how could you ever be called upon to decide when the player actually gained possession of the ball, and then was that foot he had on the floor when he caught it really on the floor, and even if you saw they travelled in slow motion, how could you ever be expected to make that call, and besides it's a game interruptor, and besides, you don't want to call it.

Interpolating to 2022, it's not a violation until you touch the baseline--take as many steps as you need to get there.

+ 100

[just another ref]

Better to let one go than call one that wasn't.

Better to call one that wasn't than to ignore twenty.

jmo

[IUgrad92]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

We obviously disagree and just because you say so does not mean that everyone that watches the video agrees with your take as I would not expect everyone to agree with mine. But if you want to call that a travel that is on you. I just want a little more than a video I have to slow down. And I would think that anyone in live speed calls this a travel probably anticipated the call rather than processed entirely what took place. I love how we get ultra upset because a travel that took place is not called, but we do almost never focus on the travels that are called that clearly are not there. And HS officials have a tendency to call many of the latter than those at the higher levels, which is why I have said that traveling is the most inconsistent call in all of basketball, not just the NBA.

Peace

I think that as we get older, it does take longer to process what took place on a particular play. Thank God that hasn't started happening with me yet.

This OP play is a fairly easy travel call in an HS game, at live speed. I guess some just have the ability to process it faster. To say that it would be an 'anticipated' call only shows disdain for those able make this call correctly at live speed.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by IUgrad92

I think that as we get older, it does take longer to process what took place on a particular play. Thank God that hasn't started happening with me yet.

This OP play is a fairly easy travel call in an HS game, at live speed. I guess some just have the ability to process it faster. To say that it would be an 'anticipated' call only shows disdain for those able make this call correctly at live speed.

Well said.

[Welpe]

The is the first time I've seen the video. At full speed that's a pretty easy travel call, I don't think even I'd miss that one.

[just another ref]

There's nothing wrong with anticipating a call which turns out to be the correct call.