When A1 is dribbling down the sideline, ball goes off foot toward OOB, A1 jumps from inbounds, saves the ball, A1 touches OOB, then A1 comes back inbounds (establishes self inbounds) and is the first to touch the ball. What is the call? Or is that legal?

Entirely legal.

Travel. The fumble and regain control is ok. but the save must be touched before A1 can touch again.

I beg to differ
 

The play sounds legal to me - provided A1 did not hold the ball during the save. You have an interrupted dribble. The save is most likely a bat (so the dribble is still interrupted). A1 can come back on court and continue the dribble or catch the ball or bat it to a teammate.

It's not traveling.

As PA Ref stated, if the save is a one handed bat, the play is legal.

If the save was a two handed bat, or a catch and save, it's a double dribble when he touches it again inbounds.

But it is not traveling and it is not a violation because he went OOB.

Okay, Tony, I'll bite. What's the signature line quote from? Did you just finish the Great American Novel?

Travel can only occur when a player's feet move beyond the prescribe limits while holding the ball.

From the movie "A river runs through it".

Also from google.

"A River Runs Through It"
 

It's the passage that Robert Redford cites, while an aging Norman is fishing alone in the final scene in the movie. Pretty deep stuff. :)

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I haven't read the book. But I don't see how it could be as good as The River Why by David James Duncan. But then, I'm not a fishing person, so I can't compare them to real life. Tangentially, The Brothers K by the same author is an incredible book. Fabulous baseball story. Almost enough to make me understand baseball.

self pass?
 

someone tried to tell me that in the rules it states that if you shoot an airball and catch it, or let it bounce, without anyone touching it it's not a self pass/turnover if there was intent to shoot. This can't be true can it?

Re: self pass?
 

As a matter of fact, this is true - the person informed you correctly. If in the official's judgement, it was a bonified attempt at a shot, you are permitted to recover your own rebound. It is not an infraction to be a crappy shooter.

However, if the official thinks that you're trying to circumvent the rules, she can call a travelling violation.

Mike

Re: self pass?
 

Illegal in the NBA.Legal in high school or college games.

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Juules, you've never seen the movie, "A River Runs Through It?"

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I haven't either. I'm not a big Brad Pitt fan, and fishing is only slightly more appealing to me than drinking beer, which, of course, is integral to most fishing trips. Blech. I'd rather do a girls' freshman game, personally.

I haven't either. I'm not a big Brad Pitt fan, and fishing is only slightly more appealing to me than drinking beer, which, of course, is integral to most fishing trips. Blech. I'd rather do a girls' freshman game, personally. [/B][/QUOTE]Hmmmm!

Don't fish! Don't like brownpop!

Bet you're real big on ballet,though.Go out for some tofu and bean sprouts afterwards.Maybe one of those non-alcoholic drinks with rhubarb and three umbrellas stuck in it.

Btw,d'ya know what a snussie is?

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Jun 19th, 2003 at 09:57 AM]

Only at Christmas when I take my daughter to the Nutcracker.

Not at my Fourth of July BBQ!!

As you well know, my non-alcoholic beverage of choice is Diet Coke. :)

No. Do I want to? It sounds very close to wussie. . . :confused:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChuckElias
[B]Only at Christmas when I take my daughter to the Nutcracker.
A snussie is a guy that'll step out of the shower to make a weewee. Nothing personal.

A 30-year old Rodney Dangerfield joke?!?! You're taking it easy on me. . . :D

You're killin' me! :D

As George Constanza would say, "It all goes to the same place!" :)

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Well then, you'll like the movie, since he dies at the end. ;)

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I've usually made it a policy not to see a movie made from a book, until I read the book first. Haven't had much time lately for books...

Has anyone read the book of "A River Runs Through It"? Can anyone compare it to "The River Why"? Or the "Sky Fisherman" by Craig Lesley? That's a great fishing book. I'd be interested to hear any opinions...

Although I recognize that this is WWAAAAAYYYYY off-topic.