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Old Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:24pm
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incidental contact on the shooter on the initial attempt...this is a travel!
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Old Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:38pm
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incidental contact on the shooter on the initial attempt...this is a travel!
I hope that this post is made in jest because it is wrong by rule once the ball come free, and I'm not even talking about a possible foul.
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Old Fri Mar 30, 2012, 11:47pm
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It appeared to me that defender blocked the shot with his arm. What I can't tell, due to the angle, is whether the shooter was off his feet at the time of block. If so, held ball. If not, legal play.
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2012, 01:55am
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It appeared to me that defender blocked the shot with his arm. What I can't tell, due to the angle, is whether the shooter was off his feet at the time of block. If so, held ball. If not, legal play.
Assume the shooter was off his feet....how do you get to a held ball when the ball is knocked out of the shooters hands by the defense?
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2012, 01:45pm
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...how do you get to a held ball when the ball is knocked out of the shooters hands by the defense?
I had the blocked shot before the ball became loose: Blue-12 went up (though I'm not sure if he actually left his feet), white-12 blocked the ball with his arm, blue-12 comes "back down," THEN the ball got knocked loose.

Again, as I see it, whether blue-12 left his feet at all is what separates this between a held ball and legal play.
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Old Sat Mar 31, 2012, 02:55pm
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It looks like a foul on the arm. But I do not see how they came to the conclusion of the held ball but it looked funny.

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Old Sat Mar 31, 2012, 05:46pm
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If that first move is a stepthrough, and not a try, a defender's hand simply touching the ball doesn't constitute a held ball. IMO, this is a bad call by the T, an unnecessary signal by the L who doesn't have any kind of clear look at the offensive player's arm getting raked/hit, not a travel, and not a held ball. Pretty much all bad things.
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Old Sun Apr 01, 2012, 12:09am
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Should have called the block on white 20 which would have avoided the whole situation.
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