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Multiple Sports Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:59pm

Sean Corbin's Style............
 
This is purely for debate. I know that Sean came from the NBA, but I am wondering what some of the esteemed brotherhood thinks of his style. Don't get me wrong, he looks as cool as the other side of the pillow (God I hate Stuart Scott), but on the flipside, I think at times he looks 100% lethargic.

Would love to hear some of your thoughts about his style........

tref Tue Mar 27, 2012 01:43pm

What you interpret as lethargic, I read as confidence. His movements suggest "I've been here & done this before."

APG Tue Mar 27, 2012 02:43pm

I much prefer his style compared to most of the "big dogs."

Raymond Tue Mar 27, 2012 02:43pm

Lethargic is the wrong word. Maybe apathetic would be more apropos as a possible description.

But he gets plays right. And he was the one who came in from the trail to pick up that PC foul right before halftime in one of the early round games.

Toren Tue Mar 27, 2012 02:49pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 834541)
But he gets plays right. And he was the one who came in from the trail to pick up that PC foul right before halftime in one of the early round games.

Colorado State vs. Murray State. That play was money.

fiasco Tue Mar 27, 2012 03:26pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 834541)
Lethargic is the wrong word.

I dunno. His 10-second backcourt count looks pretty lethargic. I much prefer a crisper, more precise count. He tends to let his arm hang down pretty low and limp (no pun intended) when he's making his count.

tref Tue Mar 27, 2012 03:29pm

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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 834548)
I dunno. His 10-second backcourt count looks pretty lethargic. I much prefer a crisper, more precise count. He tends to let his arm hang down pretty low and limp (no pun intended) when he's making his count.

I saw that too, but that's probably because he comes from a ruleset that mentally subtracts 8 from the 24 in regards to b/c counts.

I'm sure he could live with that critique :D

fiasco Tue Mar 27, 2012 04:20pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 834549)

I'm sure he could live with that critique :D

This is true. I should have added that it's just my preference. I think he's an excellent official.

rockyroad Tue Mar 27, 2012 04:52pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 834541)
Lethargic is the wrong word. Maybe apathetic would be more apropos as a possible description.

But he gets plays right. And he was the one who came in from the trail to pick up that PC foul right before halftime in one of the early round games.

Apathetic would imply that he doesn't care. That might apply to some of his mechanics, but not to his overall officiating. As far as I am concerned he is one of the best to watch as far as court coverage, putting himself in the best position to see plays, getting calls right, dealing with emotional players and coaches, etc.

Raymond Tue Mar 27, 2012 05:59pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 834558)
Apathetic would imply that he doesn't care. That might apply to some of his mechanics, but not to his overall officiating. As far as I am concerned he is one of the best to watch as far as court coverage, putting himself in the best position to see plays, getting calls right, dealing with emotional players and coaches, etc.

Oh, I'm not saying that he is apathetic, I'm just saying that's the impression some may get from his style as opposed to lethargy.

tmagan Tue Mar 27, 2012 06:11pm

They said the same thing about Joe Brinkman.

canuckrefguy Tue Mar 27, 2012 06:48pm

Some may think it's lethargic or apathetic. I think it's called 'presence'.

tomegun Tue Mar 27, 2012 07:56pm

[shrug] In terms of getting plays right, the NCAA would do well to send Corbin and DeRosa to the final four. I think the two of them know how to get to spots and get plays right. I also think they will manage the game well. That is no knock on any other good official.

BktBallRef Tue Mar 27, 2012 09:04pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 834587)
[shrug] In terms of getting plays right, the NCAA would do well to send Corbin and DeRosa to the final four. I think the two of them know how to get to spots and get plays right. I also think they will manage the game well. That is no knock on any other good official.

And DeRosa knows the a designated spot violation is not traveling!!!

Had one last weekend and correctly pointed to the spot and then gave the directional.

Multiple Sports Thu Mar 29, 2012 06:29pm

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Originally Posted by tomegun (Post 834587)
[shrug] In terms of getting plays right, the NCAA would do well to send Corbin and DeRosa to the final four. I think the two of them know how to get to spots and get plays right. I also think they will manage the game well. That is no knock on any other good official.

Tome -

I agree with what you are saying and I think everyone has made some great

points. Based on what you said, do you think that the NBA training is that

further ahead of the NCAA training or is just that they spent the last 20

years seeing better ball than college officials. Or could it be that every DI

supervisor has his own style and their is real no consistency in the NCAA

game.........


APG - please jump in as well, you always bring a great NBA insight to your posts

WhistlesAndStripes Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:35pm

I thought this was rather humorous from some site i found when I googled Sean Corbin:

Sean Corbin was born March 18, 1966, and is currently an NBA referee. He has officiated 760+ regular season games and 25+ play-off games. Sean’s charitable efforts include working for health care for the homeless and raising money for charities by erroneously ejecting players from NBA games, triggering a league mandated fine (which goes to the charity of the players choice).

APG Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:04am

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Originally Posted by Multiple Sports (Post 834828)
Tome -

I agree with what you are saying and I think everyone has made some great

points. Based on what you said, do you think that the NBA training is that

further ahead of the NCAA training or is just that they spent the last 20

years seeing better ball than college officials. Or could it be that every DI

supervisor has his own style and their is real no consistency in the NCAA

game.........


APG - please jump in as well, you always bring a great NBA insight to your posts

I think a large part of it is as you say...Joe DeRosa and Sean Corbin spent at least 10+ years officiating the highest level of basketball with the best athletes...and they were pretty good at it since DeRosa had worked Finals games before and Corbin worked playoff games himself. I also think with the NCAA adding some NBA-like rules and philosophies/POEs, things like freedom of movement, RA plays, wipeouts at the rim, etc are second nature to them.

Also, in the one or two games I've seen them work, I notice they rotate a lot more readily and quickly compared to partners...a byproduct of them working so long in the NBA where they rotate a lot more quickly/readily...seems to help them get into position a lot more often than not and not have to call across the paint as it seems to often happens in the men's game.

As far as consistency wise, as long as individual supervisors/assignors have the power to hire/fire officials, there will always be inconsistency...heck we can see that when people talk about how games are officiated between the Big 10/Big East versus say the Pac-12. I do think this has improved with the addition of absolutes and adding the RA.

jbduke Mon Apr 02, 2012 02:25pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 834541)
Lethargic is the wrong word. Maybe apathetic would be more apropos as a possible description.

But he gets plays right. And he was the one who came in from the trail to pick up that PC foul right before halftime in one of the early round games.

Dissent.

Corbin was the lead on that play. Earl Walton came from the trail to get this call. I was really happy for Earl to have a different type of spotlight moment at the end of this season.

That said, I still think Corbin is top-flight. Really wish he'd gotten a chance to work the final weekend.

APG Mon Apr 02, 2012 02:29pm

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Originally Posted by jbduke (Post 835419)
Dissent.

Corbin was the lead on that play. Earl Walton came from the trail to get this call. I was really happy for Earl to have a different type of spotlight moment at the end of this season.

That said, I still think Corbin is top-flight. Really wish he'd gotten a chance to work the final weekend.

Negative...Corbin was the trail.

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jbduke Mon Apr 02, 2012 02:38pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 835422)
Negative...Corbin was the trail.

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Ah, the vagaries of trying to pick out officials on a streaming broadcast.

Thanks for the correction.


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