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Old Sun Mar 25, 2012, 06:01pm
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I have no idea why they stayed with the flagrant one after review.
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2012, 06:24pm
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I have no idea why they stayed with the flagrant one after review.



"Pushing or holding a player from behind to prevent a score;"
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2012, 06:32pm
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"Pushing or holding a player from behind to prevent a score;"
I'm betting they went with "excessive" contact to justify the call...and I don't agree with it. I actually agree with the announcer that this is just a hard foul. And with the benefit of replay, which the crew had here, I'm surprised they stayed with the call.
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2012, 07:29pm
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I have no idea why they stayed with the flagrant one after review.
Could have something to do with Mike Stuart making the call.
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2012, 07:50pm
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I have no idea why they stayed with the flagrant one after review.
Did they call the F1 at the point of the foul? Or did they upgrade it after reviewing it? If they called it during live action, they cannot "downgrade" it to just a common foul.

I like the F1 call here. Did anyone else see the shooter's head snap as he took the shoulder into his back/side. That is too much contact to just be a "hard foul" in my opinion. Not to mention, it sets the tone for the rest of the game. i.e. "We're not doing this stuff tonight."
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2012, 09:19pm
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it sets the tone for the rest of the game. i.e. "We're not doing this stuff tonight."
That's the only thing I thought could be a rationale for upgrading to F1. If you look at the first 3-4 minutes of the game, they looked like they were trying to 'set a tone'.
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Old Mon Mar 26, 2012, 07:40am
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That's the only thing I thought could be a rationale for upgrading to F1. If you look at the first 3-4 minutes of the game, they looked like they were trying to 'set a tone'.
There was no upgrade, FF1 was the original call.
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2012, 07:52pm
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I have no idea why they stayed with the flagrant one after review.
If they ruled FF1 initially they can't downgrade to a regular personal foul. If they ruled it a normal PF initially they can only review to see if it is a FF2.

I think this is the type of play that illustrates why the NCAA went from IF to FF1. It wasn't an intentional foul as B1 did make a play on the ball, but it was hard contact from behind.
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Old Sun Mar 25, 2012, 07:54pm
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Well that's what I get for not looking up the rule...
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