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Toren Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:38pm

Clear block on the first one. And like most of you said, I would have stayed away as the L on that one. C has the first best look.

I don't have anything in the Kansas v. UNC game. That's either a PC or a no call, but I liked the way the ref'ing crew handled that one much better. The C held his signal nicely. The L sold his call effectively. I just happen to disagree with the judgement, but I liked everything else.

Camron Rust Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:09am

Syr. charge (as called) was a block. It wasn't even that close. The lead was out of position and completely booted it.

The Kansas block (as called) was a charge. The defender was in position a LONG time before the shooter got there.

Both these plays were incorrectly called.

Raymond Mon Mar 26, 2012 07:43am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 834279)
Syr. charge (as called) was a block. It wasn't even that close. The lead was out of position and completely booted it.

The Kansas block (as called) was a charge. The defender was in position a LONG time before the shooter got there.

Both these plays were incorrectly called.

Agreed on both counts, but at least in the Kansas game the Lead was in position to see the play.

JugglingReferee Mon Mar 26, 2012 08:37am

Jim B had good reason to be upset - that play was a block. Shouldn't the C have had a whistle on this play? I would bet that the C had a better look at the play than the L did.

I don't know what Jim did to be issued the T. I'd hope that he was given a bit more rope when such a call was kicked.

In the other video, it's about as clear as a PC as possible.

ballgame99 Mon Mar 26, 2012 09:12am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee (Post 834311)
Jim B had good reason to be upset - that play was a block. Shouldn't the C have had a whistle on this play? I would bet that the C had a better look at the play than the L did.

I don't know what Jim did to be issued the T. I'd hope that he was given a bit more rope when such a call was kicked.

In the other video, it's about as clear as a PC as possible.

Probably couldn't tell, but I would bet Jim B got so upset because the call came from where it did. If that call comes from L does he still get that upset? Guessing no.

On the second one, even through my black and gold colored Mizzou glasses, that is a charge. L was in perfect position for it too.

Raymond Mon Mar 26, 2012 09:33am

Syracuse play
 
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Originally Posted by ballgame99 (Post 834323)
Probably couldn't tell, but I would bet Jim B got so upset because the call came from where it did. If that call comes from L does he still get that upset? Guessing no.
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The call did come from the Lead. But the Lead did not position himself to referee that play.

biz Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:54am

If I read Boeheim's lips correctly he seemed to be arguing that the defender was in the restricted area, which the replays show that he (barely) wasn't.

My question for the esteemed members of this board is why was this game called so much tighter than every other game this weekend? I think that most of the calls that they made were technically correct, but certainly the threshold of what was a foul and what was merely incidental contact was very low in this game compared to the rest of the tourney.

Thoughts?


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