The NCAA Floor in Boston.
 

Has anybody noticed that the NCAA floor in Boston is parqay (I think that is how its spelled, but I think its butter, LOL.). All the other NCAA courts used for the last two weekends have aren't.

MTD, Sr.

Definitely an homage to the traditional floor at the Boston Garden

Probably some type of requirement in order for them to use the building.

We New Englanders wouldn't have the floor any other way.

Oh, it's "Parquet."

It's not nice to fool mother nature
 

Rule #1 of multi-use arenas. Never screw around with a basketball floor laid down over an ice rink.

Never.

Use the floor they always use.

Unless you want a lesson in all kinds of stuff involving condensation, wet bulbs, dew points, and fog.

The floor in question is NOT "the floor they always use"...it is simply a parquet floor that pays homage to the tradition of the Boston Garden past and present parquet floors.

Probably have the "Celtic rims", too.

And The Air Conditioning Probably Actually Works ...
 

Parquet floor, or no parquet floor, this will never have the mystic of the "real" Boston Garden. Never.

Are they using the Celtics floor with stickers over the the Celtic logos???? must be , no way they buy a new floor for 2 days of games, what is the cost of removable floor 300k?

Ask the players what they'd rather have: mystique or air conditioning.

They are all new floors... The University of Northern Iowa actually purchased a floor after the tourney was over and installed it in the McCleod Center where they play.
UNI beat the University of Kansas, the No. 1 seed in the tournament, 69-67, in Oklahoma City to advance to the Sweet 16. They then lost to Michigan State University, 59-52, in St. Louis.
The new floor cost $105,000 to purchase, paint and install, about $30,000 to $40,000 less than market value, Dannen said.

No, they are not. All the floors have a black OOB border and the same logos. The wood is the same except the floor that was used in Boston.

The NCAA has an $11 billion TV deal. Spending $2-$4 million on 14 floors is no big deal. They can easily be stored and used year after year.

IIRC, the mention above is correct -- they don't store the floors, they sell them to universities every year at a significant discount from the cost of a new floor.

That is what I had heard as well.

Peace

So the NCAA can afford to take a $30,000 to $40,000 loss times 13 floors each year, but it won't do a significant bump in the pay for the tournament officials?
Also which schools get these new floors each year? Is there a process for allocating them, if more than 13 schools wish to buy?
Seems what the NCAA is doing could be viewed as subsidizing certain programs, but not others. Is there fairness here?

The NCAA also builds two floors exactly alike for the Final 4 (the second one is set up in Bracket Town, which operates during Final 4 week in the host city each year).

At the conclusion of the tournament the winning school is given the option of buying one or both of these floors. Most do; some schools install them in practice facilities and some others have cut up the floors and sold pieces of them as mementos.

One of the floors from a championship site where DUKE won a title is still in use at the Emily Krzyzewski Center in Durham, NC.

Here's the answer -- it's a little of both. 5-6 floors are sold off and the ones from the first 3 rounds (including the First Four) are stored and reused:

After March Madness fades, NCAA Tournament floors find new life | NJ.com

Btw the NCAA pays each conference $250,000 for each game played by one of its schools. So the NCAA is paying $500,000 for each of the 67 games. That's 33.5 M to the participating schools.

Spoken like labor. There is another point of view.

Management: We're taking a loss of nearly a half million dollars on these floors. We can't afford a pay raise for officials.

Tree Huggers ???
 

Reduce. Recycle. Reuse. Two out of three ain't bad.

What about the Spalding goals they use? Do they sell them also. They are the top of the line. What is the price on those 15k??

Management: And, BTW, those officials are making $1700/hr

I'm one of the most pro-labor fellas you'll ever meet but I don't think NCAA tourney pay is a true concern for officials at this time, is it? They're getting paid per diem, travel, and put up at nice hotels. Are there any officials out there who are turning down NCAA tourney assignments b/c of inadequate compensation? Are there officials who are saying I'd rather work the first 2 rounds of the NIT at the local university and sleep in my own bed?

+1

Many guys would do these games for free, I'm guessing. So there's no reason to pay more than what they'd get in the regular season.

I'd be willing to bet you could get quality announcers to do these games for free as well.

Not the guys that are working the majority of the games the rest of the year. An official that is trying to move up and only works 10-20 D1 games a year, sure ... but I don't think the NCAA wants them working the tourney!

The fact that some of them get paid now is a travesty.

No, but do you really think that the NCAA Tournament pay which comes with MUCH more scrutiny than during the regular season should be LESS than what an official makes in a normal conference game?

[QUOTE=BadNewsRef;834787]Are there officials who are saying I'd rather work the first 2 rounds of the NIT at the local university and sleep in my own bed?

Don't know, but I know there are officials that are working both because they want the extra money. Coaches and sports writers are always talking about officials working too many games —*if you want them to work fewer games you're going to have to pay more.

Money talks and BS walks!!

I'm sure ... and I'm sure some have thought that about me before too! :)

What do officials make for per game for each round of the tournament? Now add in the per diem, hotel, and travel that is also paid for by the NCAA. Most D1 conferences are paying flat fees now so the game check is fat (in the top echelon conferences) but you need to account for expenses out of the that check which makes the actual "game fee" less than the check received.

Also, the NCAA could pay $10K for a tourney game and that same official will still take that $2K (???) NIT/CBI/CIT game if it falls outside restricted windows.

True ... but there was another article this year about NCAA tournament officials working the NIT. I think there are those that would like to extend the window where officials can't work to more than it is currently. However, I don't think that they can since officials are independent contractors, so it's probably more of a legal issue.

Here endeth the lesson! :)

The article said ALL courts have been sold. Storage is while they wait for the buyer or wait for the installation.

Who would want that hideous floor they played on tonight? Can't see any of the Final Four teams wanting a green floor.

The floors that get reused get repainted in the team's colors. Still saves them a boatload of money. Doesn't matter -- the last few championship floors have been bought by the winner to give away / sell as momentos.

They need to paint it before Monday 9pm.

I heard through a friend who's son plays football with a NCAA executive's son and the father said the 14 floors are stored out west somewhere. Not sure if they only sell the actual final four floor



Interesting video of creation of floor

2012 NCAA Final Four Basketball Court | Video Library | Detroit Free Press

Not sure if this was rhetorical or not, but...

from https://ncaambb.arbitersports.com/Gr...olicies(1).pdf