Our board officiates a ladies leauge that uses FIBA rules, as everthing else we do is NF rules, and i can't get a FIBA rule book by the time of the game.

Can anyone sum up the differences between the NF rules and the FIBA rules


Thanks for any Help

They're online.

http://www.fiba.com/

thanks

Here's the 5 main differences
 

The FEEBLE lane looks like is was designed by a 3 year old trying to draw a rectangle.

A player may not play under FEEBLE rules if he has any vowels in his name.

In FEEBLE arenas, the score is kept with a metric abacus.

FEEBLE coaches are decended from European howler monkeys.

French based teams don't lose - they surrender.

That's Funny

you might want to check out this site

its hilarious

http://www.twin-towers.net/french_mi..._victories.htm

Re: Here's the 5 main differences
 

Gee looks like I've been away for too long - Padge is still attacking us FEEBLE refs and there is no one here to respond :(

How is everyone? I have been very busy - and have pretty much taken 12 months off refereeing, hence not being on the board. But I will try to drop in every now and again, or if anyone specifically wants to say Hi or ask a FEEBLE question email me - [email protected] (please don't spam me!)

G'day from Down Under -

Duane

Hey nuuff with dissing the FIBA comp... it is the world comp rules after all .... plus they make sense ...

you guys just like to make things confusing and difficult, and rules that you don't have to know are really rules about rules that then relate to other rules that again may, but only at particular times, be used when those other rules are not, but if you don't know the rules go home!!

FIBA rules are world rules and everyone( but you yanks ;)) play by them ... and understand them ...

backup !!

Respekt to da world community bruvvas :)

An example, please?

Yeah, but us Yanks invented the freakin' game! (With some help from some Canadian guy ;) ). I think we get to say what the "real" rules are.

Chuck

I think it was the Canadian guy who invented the game, with a little help from the Yanks. ;-)

Hey, Chuck - where was basketball invented?

Oh - that's right - Springfield, Massachussetts, USA

Hey, Chuck - where was basketball invented?

Oh - that's right - Springfield, Massachussetts, USA [/B][/QUOTE]About the same time that the AL team from Massachusetts last won a World's Championship,too!

Oooooo! A little defensive, aren't we? :D

Hey, partner, it's an American game, whether you like it or not. We could give a flip about FIBA. Nobody here plays by there rules, so you'll find little sympathy here.

don't be so negative.most of the world is playing with the FIBA rules.even you do so in the olimpics games.

As far a "being negative," I'm just responding to your buddy, Isaak's post.
 

That's the point. We don't care that the rest of the world uses those rules. We only use them in the Olympics because we're forced to, not because we like them. The game was invented and developed in the US. FIBA folks took the game and changed the rules. Like it or not, Americans don't care for FIBA rules.

is it because the 4 in july you speak like that??
take it easy man...it's look like you are going to kill some fiba members.."Like it or not, Americans don't care for FIBA rules. ..."
like it or not ,you shouldn't speak like that..it's sound bad

Romano,

They could not even sell out the arena in Indiana, when the World Championships where there. No one here really cares about FIBA Rules. Just a fact of life. Just like I am sure the world cares little about Major League Soccer in America.

Peace

IT'S ALL BECAUSE THE JEWISH...

YOU do have Major League Soccer in America??

What a stupid remark.
 

You're just as defensive as Isaak is. It has nothing to do with the 4th plus it's pretty stupid to say that "...you are going to kill some fiba members." Do I write, "Romano, whatcha doing today, shooting a couple of Palestinians?" No, because that would be a stupid thing to say. Get your head on straight partner, it's just a discussion, where differences in opinions exist.

You're not from here, therefore, you don't understand what the thinking is here. I'm not from your country, so I don't make remarks about what things should or should not be like in your country. Do you know who won the Super Bowl last year? Do you know what the Super Bowl is? Roger Clemens won his 300th game a few weeks ago. Do you know who Roger Clemens is? My guess is you may know little or nothing about these things, but that doesn't make it wrong. They happen but they're just not important to you. Well guess what? As Rut said, we don't care about FIBA or their rules. It's not basketball to us.

[Edited by BktBallRef on Jul 5th, 2003 at 11:15 AM]

"..... it's just a discussion, where differences in opinions exist."-so let me say whati want to say from my point of view.and no i didn't killed enyone till this day and i'm happy for that but if i must kill someone for my safty (amd my country safty)i will do so.there is many official here that officiat with the FIBA rules
so please respect us because we respect you.and we will keep writing in this forum if you like it or not.
i don't knew ISAAK at all but you think we are partners..it's ok you may think what ever you want i don't care.
RESPECT US RESPECT YOU'RSELF!
even do we are forginers.
I LOVE YOU ISRAEL!!!!!!!
happy 4 in july.

Re: What a stupid remark.
 

You're not from here, therefore, you don't understand what the thinking is here. I'm not from your country, so I don't make remarks about what things should or should not be like in your country. Do you know who won the Super Bowl last year? Do you know what the Super Bowl is? Roger Clemens won his 300th game a few weeks ago. Do you know who Roger Clemens is? My guess is you may know little or nothing about these things"....

[Edited by BktBallRef on Jul 5th, 2003 at 11:15 AM] [/B][/QUOTE]
i don't see you'r point here..did i make remarkes about things sould or shouldn't be in you'r country???
what is the story about super bowl last year game????...
i think you are mad there for you speak like littel children.

Re: Re: What a stupid remark.
 

David, my friend. Lighten up. It's typical over here to resent any "ruling world body" that represents their rules are the "world rules" in a sport that we feel has the best leagues in the world here in America. This includes basketball. We don't have that same feeling about soccer (football) because it is not our game, and the best players and leagues in the world are outside our country. Besides, that game didn't originate here like basketball did.

The Olympics, which is another international organization, really has no choice but to use FIBA rules in competition, since the vast majority of participating nations use those rules. We understand that. But our feeling is that we resent some "foreigners" proposing that "their rules" are "better" than our rules, when we feel no one knows that game like we do.

It's just our jingoism coming through. There's no real anger, only joking - like calling FIBA "FEEBLE".

Let's not argue about something so trivial, my friend.

NO MORE OF THIS:
http://www.deephousepage.com/smilies/argue2.gif

ok .
I think he misunderstand my point..but it's history..
god bless america(and her games)...
i can see that after all mr.(jokes)BktBallRef deleted all his insulting posts..what a wise man.

[Edited by ROMANO on Jul 5th, 2003 at 02:01 PM]

The more things change.....
 

the more they stay the same.

Well, its been a while since I have been here regulary, but its nice to see that there are still a few FEEBLE refs here, fighting the good fight!

A suggestion to all the other FEEBLE refs here - give up, you can't argue logically with these crazy yanks, just smile, nod and quitely mutter to yourself. In all honesty, I really miss the (mostly) good natured banter here, but due to a change in jobs, towns and going back to uni, I don't really have the time.

CHUCK - yeah my site is still working, but my domain registration has been all screwed up. If anyone wants to check out the site it is at http://www.geocities.com/oz_referee and you can email me at [email protected] - but be warned, I don't check it all that often. I am hoping to get the site back up and running properly by the end of the year.

Take care all, I will still call in every now and again to chuckle at the conversations on here, so keep it up!!

i agree with you.
BUT ..but he want to make joke from my english..it's ok..he should respect all refrees in this forum.

I agree with you but he wants to make jokes about my English. He should respect all referees on this forum.

David, we're constantly correcting each other's grammar and spelling on this board. That's all of us. You can be corrected just as easily as anyone else. Don't be so sensitive, about English or FEEBLE.

i think ya'll should get some common sense ... eat smaller portion size meals and listen to Dr Phil and Oprah ...

I'm telling you ... the way the world views Americans is not cool at the moment - and you should lose the arrogance ... America isn't the only place in the world ... and you should acknowledge and respect that ...

Every ohter sport that has gone from the local form to the global stage seems to have done so in an orderly fashion, and people seem to be able to put aside their differences for the better of the global community - except you lot ...

Enjoy basketball ... all forms ... and respect everyone and everything, this doesn't just apply to sport ...

sheesh ... just wanted you all to open your minds a little - sorry it was too much to ask ... never mind ... i'll go back to the other 'Feeble' forums ... i take pride in saying that I am part of a truly world game ... there are only a few sports you can say that genuinley, and we should respect and welcome that :)

- Isaak

[Edited by Isaak on Jul 10th, 2003 at 12:35 PM]

There's a very arrogant statement on your part.

Quote:

sheesh ... just wanted you all to open your minds a little - sorry it was too much to ask ... never mind ... i'll go back to the other 'Feeble' forums

Bye-bye.

If you don't like it get the f*** off my planet.

BTW, it's Oprah.

If you don't like it get the f*** off my planet.

BTW, it's Oprah. [/B][/QUOTE]Gee,who sh*t in your Wheaties this morning? :D

BTW,it's opera. http://213.239.157.21/smilies/opera.gif

can't stand listening to Opera!! Oprah, on the other hand...

Gee,who sh*t in your Wheaties this morning? :D

BTW,it's opera. http://213.239.157.21/smilies/opera.gif [/B][/QUOTE]

Well, if I wanted to start trouble I would just say I'm sick & tired of these little people from pathetic countries putting their hands on their hips, noses in the air & saying how arrogant we are and then coming back a week later when they're in sh1t up to their eyeballs begging us to get THEIR nasty pathetic asses out of trouble yet again. F*** them & f*** that.

But of course I would never say that.

BTW, it's Oprah

http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ee9rwjj/b3ta/oprah.jpg

BTW, it's Oprah

[/B][/QUOTE]If it'll make you feel better,go kick Woody.

Not me,you idiot,the dog!

BTW,it's still opera.Even though I personally am the greatest fan of Death Tongue. And have been all of my adolescent life!

DEATH TONGUE RULZ!!!
http://www.angelfire.com/ak/captaino...athtoungue.jpg

Nah, Woody's one of the good guys.

Not you, you idiot, the dog!

:p

Both statements greatly uncalled for. Must we Canadians always act the part of peacekeeper?

Isaak, the theme of your posts are valid, but there is a big difference between challenging the imperalism and ultra-right wing agenda of the Bush Administration, and just plain America-bashing. If you are from Israel, I think you and Romano should remember that if it wasn't for the US, you would all be saying "Yes, Master" to Yassar Arafat. America has much improving to do on the world stage, but they are still fundamentally good people. After all, they don't fly jet liners into buildings on purpose.

Dan, your attitude is exactly what is at the root of America-bashing in the first place. You have a valid point about the US being an economic, political, and military saviour to many countries. Believe me, as Canadian, I am grateful to have you folks as neighbours. But what you have to also realize is that it's easy to give when you got the most.

While there is no justification for 9-11 and the extremist Islamic movement, the US has itself to blame for much of its tarnished reputation. America has consistently picked and chosen its battles, and limited its benevolance to only those situations from which it can profit.

If Iraq's main export were bananas instead of oil, Saddam Hussein would still be in power today.

Although this week has revealed major US commitments to Africa, its reluctance, even outright refusal to address the plight of that continent over the last 20 years is the biggest crime of all. Dozens of regimes, all of them much worse than Iraq, have thrived there for decades, with little or no leadership shown by the US to bring them down.

The poorest, sickest person on America's streets still lives like a king compared to someone in Ethiopia, Congo, or Rwanda. Don't forget that.

With wealth and power comes responsibility. There is a balance to be struck between individual liberty, free market, and the sharing of resources to benefit the entire planet. America seems to thumb its nose at this. That is the problem.

BTW, I am not some bleeding-heart liberal. Where I come from, people are so conservative they make you look like Ralph Nader.

Just one man's opinion.

And incidentally, I've reffed both FIBA and NCAA, and NCAA is way better.

[Edited by canuckrefguy on Jul 11th, 2003 at 01:21 AM]

The above post by Canuckrefguy is probably the most sensible thing said by anyone in this rapidly deteriorating thread. Thanks for bringing some sense to this. Having said that though, I would also add that on a political scale there is little we can do, in the immediate sense at least, when our elected leaders get on their high horses.

There's also no point and IMHO definately no place for politics in sport. Isn't the idea of sport to achieve the utmost in human performance? Regardless of the rules we play by, aren't we all looking to be involved in the perfect game? As a referee in Australia I can only dream of:
a) Refereeing the perfect game (in which case I will promptly retire)
b) Referee in the NBA/College where I can be a part of athletes trying to achieve THEIR perfect game.

Now that I have gotten all idealistic can we return to a more interesting topic. i.e., Davism - bring them on. Even though there are times we cannot use them at least we can think them. Wouldn't that fustrate coaches - wondering why we are smiling to ourselves.

Cheers,

G'day eaco
 

Eaco, I'm not even going to bother agreeing with you and Canuckrefguy, I've had this conversation with members here until my face was blue and my fingers red (no that isn't supposed to be a pun about the american flag - but it is kinda funny).

Nice to see there is one other Aussie here - someone's gotta educate these northern hemispeherians (dunno if its a word - but it is now) and explain that the world is actually upside down, and Oz is on top!!

Many people have been discussing recently the number of non-american players entering the NBA. Here is a bit of trivia for you. One of Australian basketball cult personalities (and a good friend of mine) has just been cast as a wookie in Star Wars III. Type in "Kingma wookie" in google for a bit of a giggle.

I'll leave you to go back to the political rants....check ya in another 6 months.

Peace!

Hot diggity, no I am not from Israel, but yes from Australia, the best place in the entire planet :)

Well, it looks like I succesfully stired the pot, in the hope that at least one of you may look outside that USA of yours and realise that, yes, there is a whole other world out there.

Long live world basketball and its global rules that makes the playing field even for everyone :)

- Isaak

Just Curious
 

I'm curious - why wouldn't playing under NCAA rules make the playing field even for everyone?

Even moreso, how does a set of rules "make the playing field even for everyone?"

I think the trapezoid and 6.25m three will be the way to go by 2004-05 for all federations. The trapezoid also promotes more passing, shooting, and cutting.

The NBA's 8-second rule is a FIBA rule as was the influence to eliminate the no-zone rule. FIBA will influence the NBA in rule changes in the future.

The arrow has to go, however. The NBA has refused to go by luck.

[Edited by Bobby on Jul 15th, 2003 at 10:34 PM]

If you love FEEBLE so much, why don't you marry it? http://www.deephousepage.com/smilies/1luvu.gif

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bobby
The trapezoid also promotes more passing, shooting, and cutting.

I've reffed both FIBA and NCAA, and disagree with you completely. One of the roughest, post-dominated games I ever saw was a FIBA game. I also think any NCAA coach who runs a motion offence would have an issue with this statement.

Going to the trapezoid will only mean the big guys will beat the s**t out of each other a foot or so further away from the hoop. Ask the NBA if the wide key cuts down on rough play.

There's little or no truth to either of these statements. The fact that FIBA had an 8 second count before the NBA doesn't mean that the NBA changed their rule because FIBA used it. They actually chan ge several timing rules at the same time, including shot clock resets. As for zone defenses, they've been legal in under NFHS and NCAA rules for years. So, why is it that it was FIBA that influenced the change? Answer: They didn't. If you want to credit someone with this, credit Don Nelson.

The trapezoid won't happen anytime soon in NFHS, simply because of the labor and cost involved in painting thousands of gyms floors across America.

We're all just mercenaries anyway
 

This battle over whether FIBA or NF or NCAA is really kind of pointless, isn't it?

We all gotta work for somebody. We may say we're calling by a certain set of rules, but the truth is that we're calling by a set of rules as interpreted and ammended by an assignor or league or by local custom and practice.

Disagree? Count how many times we make comments on this board about "technically the rule says such and such, but I'd never actually call it that way during a game." Or how often we respond to questions with, "we call it such and such way around here, but you'd better check with your assignor."

While it is endlessly entertaining to debate the finer points of the rules, would any of us actually pack in officiating if, for instance, high school decided to adopt FIBA rules? Would the FIBA guys quit if FIBA decided to adopt NCAA rules? No, I don't think any of us would. We love doing this enough that we'd do it even if we were told to use the "other guy's" rules.

We're all just mercenaries :)

Well, if I wanted to start trouble countries putting their hands on their hips, noses in the air & I would just say I'm sick & tired of these little people from pathetic saying how arrogant we are and then coming back a week later when they're in sh1t up to their eyeballs begging us to get THEIR nasty pathetic asses out of trouble yet again. F*** them & f*** that.

But of course I would never say that.

BTW, it's Oprah

http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ee9rwjj/b3ta/oprah.jpg [/B][/QUOTE]
what is you'r point?'..I'm sick & tired of these little people from pathetic countries putting their hands on their hips, noses in the air'....
nobody is fighting you.

[Edited by ROMANO on Jul 29th, 2003 at 09:51 AM]

Internet connection a little slow, Romano? The post you replied to is only 3 frickin' weeks old! :D

...and the sumnab1tch is just gonna get me all churned up again!

:D

yes....you know..israel is not a computers country like you'r country..everything here is a very slow and old and not good.i think i will come to live in you'r country ..it will be better..don't you think so too?..

...and the sumnab1tch is just gonna get me all churned up again!

[/B][/QUOTE]Geeze,if it means that much to ya,then it's Oprah.

Don't wanna see one of those little veins in your forehead exploding.

Hmmmmm,on second thought.....
http://213.239.157.21/smilies/opera.gif

Go figure
 

The tallest play in the NBA is from China.
The best rapper is white.
The best golfer is black.
The Germans don't want to go to war.
The French think we are arragant.
The Americas Cup is help by the Swiss.

Re: Go figure
 

Who might this be?

Re: Re: Go figure
 

BktBallRef...???

Yo, yo, yo! Wassup dawg?
 

Just chillin' in my crib! But I wrote this, just for my little Israeli homeboy!


I'm a rapping poster,
doing all I can!
trying to educate you,
silly little man!

But when it come's to FIBA,
I guess I'll pass,
cause I can't get through
to ROMANO'S dumbass!

:D

Re: Yo, yo, yo! Wassup dawg?
 

YO YO YO PEOPLE LISTEN UP..
He loves to sling it every day,
The forum people all just say,
That Bkballref has a way
Of making bull**** sound OK!

Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef

Just chillin' in my crib! But I wrote this, just for my little Israeli homeboy!

I'm a rapping poster,
doing all I can!
trying to educate you,
silly little man!

But when it come's to FIBA,
I guess I'll pass,
cause I can't get through
to ROMANO'S dumbass!

:D [/QUOTE]
YO YO YO PEOPLE LISTEN UP..
He loves to sling it every day,
The forum people all just say,
That Bkballref has a way
Of making bull**** sound OK!

[/B][/QUOTE]ROTFLMAO!

YO YO YO PEOPLE LISTEN UP..
He loves to sling it every day,
The forum people all just say,
That Bkballref has a way
Of making bull**** sound OK!

[/QUOTE]ROTFLMAO! [/B][/QUOTE]
ROTFLMAO! ?????????
what is that?

ROTFLMAO! [/B]
[/QUOTE]
ROTFLMAO! ?????????
what is that?
[/B][/QUOTE]The first letters of "Rolling On The Floor Laughing My A$$ Off",David. It's a short form that's used when somebody thinks that something he reads was really funny.

thank you ..thank you...

ROTFLMAO!!

Well, until now, we had no idea that there were Jewish rappers! ;)

My name is Moishe and I'm here to say
I'm the Jewish rapper and I'm gonna have my day
My brother's from New Yawk and he loves to eat his lox
My uncle is from Haifa he wears sandals with his sox

When I was a baby they took a piece of me away
Not to worry baby there's plenty left OK
When I was older they Bar Mitvahed me a man
Gave me lots of money now I gots me a plan

Work hard in high school get a perfect SAT
Apply to the best of the university
One thing's fer sure I aint gonna make the team
'Cause I'm just a Jewish rapper and I aint no coach's dream.

Evidently, there's at least one too many Jewish rappers! :D

BRAVO..brother..ROTFLMAO!

Tov m'eod.

mark...bravo to you to..
i feel like home here...