Another Inquiry

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by justacoach

Reasons for:
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Coach, I'm assuming you're slightly kidding here. The obvious reason is for the team that's behind, late in a game, to save a few precious seconds by having the clock start when the ball's closer to half court. Do that a couple of possessions, and pretty soon that team has saved perhaps enough time to get at least one more possession out of the game.

Of course, when I see it done in the first half, I use just as many question marks as you did.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Coach, I'm assuming you're slightly kidding here. The obvious reason is for the team that's behind, late in a game, to save a few precious seconds by having the clock start when the ball's closer to half court. Do that a couple of possessions, and pretty soon that team has saved perhaps enough time to get at least one more possession out of the game.

Of course, when I see it done in the first half, I use just as many question marks as you did.

I think (although I'm not sure) the coach's point is the actual rolling is a problem. In order to actually roll the ball, the thrower must either touch the ball as it hits inbounds, or start the roll from OOB. Either is a violation.
Even if he manages to do it legally, the problems he mentions with the receiver still exist.

It seems to me it would be better to throw it so it bounces and the receiver doesn't have to bend over to get it.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I think (although I'm not sure) the coach's point is the actual rolling is a problem. In order to actually roll the ball, the thrower must either touch the ball as it hits inbounds, or start the roll from OOB. Either is a violation.
Even if he manages to do it legally, the problems he mentions with the receiver still exist.

It seems to me it would be better to throw it so it bounces and the receiver doesn't have to bend over to get it.

Ahhh ok that makes sense.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Coach, I'm assuming you're slightly kidding here. The obvious reason is for the team that's behind, late in a game, to save a few precious seconds by having the clock start when the ball's closer to half court. Do that a couple of possessions, and pretty soon that team has saved perhaps enough time to get at least one more possession out of the game.

Of course, when I see it done in the first half, I use just as many question marks as you did.

Not kidding. Why roll the ball as opposed to bounce?
(BTW, reformed coach)

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I think (although I'm not sure) the coach's point is the actual rolling is a problem. In order to actually roll the ball, the thrower must either touch the ball as it hits inbounds, or start the roll from OOB. Either is a violation.
Even if he manages to do it legally, the problems he mentions with the receiver still exist.

It seems to me it would be better to throw it so it bounces and the receiver doesn't have to bend over to get it.

Originally Posted by justacoach

Not kidding. Why roll the ball as opposed to bounce?
(BTW, reformed coach)

Well, ok, now it makes sense. And, you're right, it doesn't make sense.

Carry on.

[Lcubed48]

Originally Posted by justacoach

(BTW, reformed coach)

Please eradicate all of your old dark side issues.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Coach, I'm assuming you're slightly kidding here. The obvious reason is for the team that's behind, late in a game, to save a few precious seconds by having the clock start when the ball's closer to half court. Do that a couple of possessions, and pretty soon that team has saved perhaps enough time to get at least one more possession out of the game.

Of course, when I see it done in the first half, I use just as many question marks as you did.

Any time saved by rolling the ball is lost by the A1 then having to return upright and rescan the court. Why not just run to that spot and have the ball thrown directly to you?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Any time saved by rolling the ball is lost by the A1 then having to return upright and rescan the court. Why not just run to that spot and have the ball thrown directly to you?

Perhaps defense?

The rolled or bounced ball lets the offense gauge when they need to pick up the ball based on the proximity of the defense. The long direct pass is probably not open.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Perhaps defense?

The rolled or bounced ball lets the offense gauge when they need to pick up the ball based on the proximity of the defense. The long direct pass is probably not open.

If the defense is far enough back to roll the ball to a certain point it's far enough back to just run up the court a little ways then receive the pass. As a player whose most effective weapons were intellect and passing I've never been a fan of rolling the ball.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If the defense is far enough back to roll the ball to a certain point it's far enough back to just run up the court a little ways then receive the pass. As a player whose most effective weapons were intellect and passing I've never been a fan of rolling the ball.

Not really....you're assuming the defense is static. The defense might just retreat keeping a modest buffer and as long as they do, the offense can let it keep rolling.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Any time saved by rolling the ball is lost by the A1 then having to return upright and rescan the court. Why not just run to that spot and have the ball thrown directly to you?

Because a defender could come up and intercept the pass/roll, where running alongside the rolling/bouncing ball can "protect" it from the defense. Also, it gives the thrower-in a chance to get up the court while the ball is still rolling, so you have a better chance of having all 5 on offense.

I'm not a big fan of the play, just trying to help present why it's still being done. I'm also not a big fan of some officials still wearing a belt, but I can...well, no I can't.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Coach, I'm assuming you're slightly kidding here. The obvious reason is for the team that's behind, late in a game, to save a few precious seconds by having the clock start when the ball's closer to half court. Do that a couple of possessions, and pretty soon that team has saved perhaps enough time to get at least one more possession out of the game.

Of course, when I see it done in the first half, I use just as many question marks as you did.

Also it allows inbounder to get into position quicker giving another scoring option.