UNC-Asheville/Syracuse End of 1st Half

[bigwhistle]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Yep. I don't think we'll see them on Saturday. Too bad, Corbett is a past Nat'l Champ. official.

Do they no longer already preselect the 1st two rounds? It used to be that the officials would know ahead of time if they were working one or two games.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bigwhistle

Do they no longer already preselect the 1st two rounds? It used to be that the officials would know ahead of time if they were working one or two games.

No idea. But I sure wouldn't give any of them a Saturday game, based on the rule misapplication alone.

John Adams is about to appear on the postgame show, so we'll see what he has to say about those plays.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bigwhistle

Do they no longer already preselect the 1st two rounds? It used to be that the officials would know ahead of time if they were working one or two games.

Yes, they are preselected for Thu/Sat & Fri/Sun.

Also, I believe when the officials get their opening round assignments they are given some kind of indicator as to whether or not they considered for an opportunity to be one of the 36 officials who will advance to the Sweet 16/Elite 8.

[Mark Dexter]

Hey, guys. Haven't been on here in years, but when I saw the shot clock play, this board was my first thought. I remember posting a hypothetical a few years ago about an NFHS game with foul, whistle, buzzer, shot, and what the ruling would be. Can't say I agree with the crew on the floor on this one, although if they judged the shot clock violation before the foul, they at least interpreted the situation correctly.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Yes, they are preselected for Thu/Sat & Fri/Sun.

Also, I believe when the officials get their opening round assignments they are given some kind of indicator as to whether or not they considered for an opportunity to be one of the 36 officials who will advance to the Sweet 16/Elite 8.

Like a decoder ring?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

Like a decoder ring?

Have a mentor on the Women's side who once told me that when they get their opening round email/letter there is some kind of code included within the notification correspondence. If your correspondence didn't have the code then you know you do not have a chance move on.

bigjake, I'm sure, can give us the details and correct me if I'm wrong.

[Spence]

Re: the oob play.

Pass hits A1's hands, goes through his hands, then B1 collides with him.

How many are calling that a foul?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Spence

Re: the oob play.

Pass hits A1's hands, goes through his hands, then B1 collides with him.

How many are calling that a foul?

That's what you see in slo-mo. Regular speed, not so sure.

[Judtech]

Did anyone notice that the Ashville players were committing the same violation on many of the free throws? In fact, a player crossed the line again on the second free throw AFTER the violation was called. IMO had the UNCA player not gotten that rebound, they would not have blown a violation. Like I said the Bulldogs were doing that all night/afternoon

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Spence

Re: the oob play.

Pass hits A1's hands, goes through his hands, then B1 collides with him.

How many are calling that a foul?

I got burned by a play like this on a big stage. Lesson learned. Call the foul. Adams is right.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I got burned by a play like this on a big stage. Lesson learned. Call the foul. Adams is right.

But on this play Adams said he would have given the ball to UNC-Asheville right?

The contact was after the ball had already been touched and was headed oob and was therefore incidental. No foul and possession should have gone to UNCA.

I agree though that the habit of ignoring a foul and awarding possession is a dying practice and we should just call the foul.

IMO we can still get away with doing this occassionally on marginal rebounding contact where both players come close to touching the ball and we award the ball to the team whose player may have been slightly disadvantaged by contact from behind.

But this has become a dangerous practice, especially with the NBA now making oob calls reviewable at the end of games. They basically have to call the foul now if they feel the contact is what caused the player to not be able to secure possession.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Yes, they are preselected for Thu/Sat & Fri/Sun.

Also, I believe when the officials get their opening round assignments they are given some kind of indicator as to whether or not they considered for an opportunity to be one of the 36 officials who will advance to the Sweet 16/Elite 8.

Any idea when they get their notice? Before the brackets are set? Afterwards?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Any idea when they get their notice? Before the brackets are set? Afterwards?

I'm thinking after the brackets are set. Based on the officials I know in the tournament it seems there are not working games on Thursday/Friday for teams they see regularly in the regular season.

[fortmoney]

You have got to be kidding me!!! How can that Notre Dame player be that stupid??? This just happened yesterday!!!

[APG]

Whoever was that official with the lane violation call, the FF1, and the OOB nailed the end of the game!

How could that player go in early?!