UNC-Asheville/Syracuse End of 1st Half

[Johnny Ringo]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Foul and whistle came before the shot clock expired.

Should have counted the basket and shot 1 FT.

We're discussing it in the Chat Room.

I thought it should have been no basket because ball had not left hand prior to time expiring, however two FTs because foul occurred prior.

[fortmoney]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

I thought it should have been no basket because ball had not left hand prior to time expiring, however two FTs because foul occurred prior.

The shotclock doesn't continue to run when a foul is called and 10 seconds left, so why should it run when there is 1 second left?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

I thought it should have been no basket because ball had not left hand prior to time expiring, however two FTs because foul occurred prior.

The shot clock and game clock stop when a whistle blows.

So how can the clock expire when the whistle is before the buzzer?

[tref]

Are they using PTS?

[APG]

Originally Posted by tref

Are they using PTS?

PTS isn't used for the tournament.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by tref

Are they using PTS?

Not in the tourney. They never do.

Sure would have prevented whatever is being discussed here. I haven't seen it yet.

[tref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Not in the tourney. They never do.

Sure would have prevented whatever is being discussed here. I haven't seen it yet.

Neither have I, gotta work

[jbduke]

This error would have been correctable to start the half, no? I've been in the rulebook all half, and I'm struggling to see how it's not correctable.

If I'm wrong, mea culpa to the crew (sort of). If I'm right, it's a double-whammy.

[Johnny Ringo]

Good point. Then should the foul have been enforced? Foul happened prior to expiration of time.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

I thought it should have been no basket because ball had not left hand prior to time expiring, however two FTs because foul occurred prior.

Negative...count the basket and one...since the foul occurred before the shot clock expired, the clock should have stopped.

[tref]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Negative...count the basket and one...since the foul occurred before the shot clock expired, the clock should have stopped.

Do we have a CE situation here?

[BktBallRef]

It's within the next dead ball time frame but I'm not sure how the end of the period plays in under NCAA rules.

No matter, they didn't correct it. And Len Elmore is explaining to everyone how they got it right.

[jbduke]

There are no end-of-half exceptions listed in 2.12. I think it's a CE.

[fortmoney]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

It's within the next dead ball time frame but I'm not sure how the end of the period plays in under NCAA rules.

No matter, they didn't correct it. And Len Elmore is explaining to everyone how they got it right.

That's what is making me mad. The crew just missed a goaltend against Cuse so now atleast the outcome of the game can't be blamed on this one call

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by fortmoney

...so now atleast the outcome of the game can't be blamed on this one call

Wanna bet? Fans can always blame a loss on a call.