NCAA Tournament Video Request Thread
 

I'd love to see comments on the foul called on Colorado State with 0.9 seconds left in the first half. I think the call was pretty obvious, but I think it's interesting that the L and C passed and the T made the call at the block, in transition, from about the division line.

T moves to Sweet 16?

Was quite surprised the call came from the trail...in a fastbreak scenario none the less. It was a CC though.

And at the end of the day that is what matters most! Good thing he didnt let em live & die with the INC :rolleyes:

NCAA Tournament Video Requests
 

Murray St, Colorado State, 17:00 2nd half. Injury and flagrant review. No flagrant was called.

That was the right call!! He had the perfect look on the play.

Saw the call, and thought it was a great call. I wasn't paying enough attention to notice it was from the T.

Murray St, Colorado State, 17:00 2nd half. Injury and flagrant review. No flagrant was called.

Oh, and shut up.

I agree and to address the potential flagrant. I thought that was a good no call. The defender was moving towards the ball handler as he begun the motion to pass to the corner.

Are you striking the squirrel pose?:D

I've got a MS set this afternoon; might have to use that line.

Oh boy. Murray State/Colorado State

Backcourt violation called by (I think) the C on a rebound backtap.

7:12 mark of the 2nd half.

Was Corbin the Trail?

Louisville/Davidson
 

At around the 9:30 mark in the first half of the Louisville/Davidson game, was that not a travel right in front of the C? Seemed to me he did almost a complete rollover on the floor while holding the ball. Maybe he didn't have control of the ball when he started his roll? Anyone else see this?

Thought it was Mike Kitts :D

Be late...?

Be needed...?

HaHaHa!!

Harvard vs Vanderbilt
 

Travel, block, or charge? 1:24 left in the second half.

Thanks. Watching it I went charge. Weird replay I thought could go either way, but would have went charge.

Thought lead had a quick whistle, but dropped his arm just as quickly.
C's all the way. Glad there was no blarge.

TX/Cincy, about 15:20 or so, a jump stop followed by a pivot. Looked like a travel.

We could go on all day about uncalled travels we saw.

Perhaps I should shut up, as I have a 5-6 boys' tourney this weekend.

Yeah, there were several spin moves where the pivot looked like it might have moved.

The vast majority of spin moves executed in NCAA games are strictly traveling under NF/NCAA rules.

"But, but, it's such an athletic move!!"

A lot of times, the plays are close...I have no problem with passing on some of these plays as it would be guessing on some of them if a whistle was put on the play.

Yep, and we're told to call it in our high school games.

I think Snaqs identified the key to not putting a whistle on the vast majority of them:

Calling travels that needs 5 rewinds to justify, probably isnt a great travel call. JMO

I agree, but I was being generous with "might." A couple were very clear; gather on the right foot, spin to the left foot, move the right foot into place, jump, shoot. The one I first noted wasn't a spin move. Jump stop. Gather on one foot, jump, land on both, pivot, shoot.

I don't think travels are big on John Adams' radar while I think on the NCAA-W's side it has been emphasized the last few years.

Problem was that there appeared to be 2 Cs and a Trail. no one was on the baseline and I think the T could recognize that and had to make the call.

True. The folks on NCAAW side want us to get them. We received the following note from the home office before the '09-10 season regarding spin moves and it still holds (I added the bold):

Situation 3c is the one we see way more than NCAAM will. Women will take that shot after a spin with their pivot foot in the air because they know they'll get called for a the travel if it comes down. I don't think men's players are as worried about that situation.

Two plays from Norfolk State/Missouri.
Ten seconds left Norfolk end line throw-in. Did the thrower get in or violate on the return pass. Hightower was covering official and standing well into the court. Despite that positioning I believe that the correct call was made.
Play 2: final time-out with about 3 seconds after missed FTs by Norfolk. Where is the correct throw-in spot? Crew went sideline. I believe end line was proper.

I believe the throw-in play was correct...but that Hightower was lucky to get the call correct. That positioning was a prime example of what not to do.

IMO the ball was still in the paint when the official signaled for the TO. The ball should have went to the end line.

I already put the video of the throw-in in the appropriate thread and same with the other throw-in play Nevada requested.

That's the mechanic that most drives me crazy by some of those old-time legends (Burr/Hightower/Tim Higgins). Can lead to so many problems.

Another play: St. Mary's player commits a violation near the end of the game. He moved too much on a throw-in where he was not allowed to move.

The official's signal was a travel! Someone tell me this is not correct... Isn't this simply a violation and point at the spot?

Video would be great if you can get it.

Along this line....

2:16 of the first half, Purdue with a spot throw in in their frontcourt. Looked like the inbounder may have moved outside of the three foot window. No call made.

Also, last couple of minutes of the first half of Notre Dame/Xavier, there was some sort of flailing spin move by a Xavier player in his backcourt...looked like a travel.

Another...South Florida/Temple

About the 12:35 mark of the second half, possible basket interference.

We oughta pitch in and buy you a case of whatever you want APG!

Notre Dame and Xavier
 

Ok need to see video of this one at end of the game. On my DVR the ball released before anyone was in the lane, but is the rule when it hits the basket as in HS or when the ball is released? Announcers as usual don't know what they are talking about.

Thanks
David

Only players in marked lane spaces can enter in on the release. Everyone else (except the shooter) is on the rim, flange, or backboard.

#22 in white crossed the three point line well before the ball hit the rim. Same thing happened in the Syracuse game last night.

Thanks, that is what i thought, but wanted to make sure. Great call and gutsy to make that call!!!

Announcers are killing me with their comments!

Thanks
David

The player was the WCC POY. The official was Scott Thornley and he did give the travel signal. Shoot them both!

I fully agree with that. If APG sends me a PM, I'll send him some funds. Not kidding!

APG,
Please post the throw-in/OOB violation called in the last couple of seconds of the Creighton/Bama game.

I'd need to know when it occurred.

St. Marys had a throw-in at that time...and the player didn't move a bit...at least from what they showed. They didn't show the beginning of the throw-in.

Two plays that would be good to see:

1) 8:20 to go in 1st half of Murray St./Marquette... Would any of you went with offensive foul?

2) Florida St. / St. Bonaventure... 11:10 to go in second half. Player passes the ball to himself - nothing was called.

Hmm...i'll try and remember it

Maybe try the second half?

Here it is...

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~2:50 left in first half - interesting Flagrant 1 called on Indiana for swinging the elbows by the offense and hitting a defender in the face. Long delay. Tom Eades got lots of air/face time.

Would you call that play a violation? Double dribble?

Assuming it didn't touch his teammate on the way by, yes...illegal dribble.

this thread is not all that convenient. have to read through most every post to determine if the play makes it to the site.

Suggestion: the threads be broken down by game rather than all possible games.

I am sure that there is a reason for the way it is currently done, but for people who don't have the time or inclination to read every post, it would be appreciated

Thanks for everyone who suggests plays for discussion

I tend to take all the plays from a game, and make a thread of it..if there's a play you'd like to see and it isn't in the thread, feel free to mention it in the thread.

APG: Could you grab from Ohio State v Gonzaga the OOB call with ~0:45 left in the second? It looked to me that Ohio State reestablished before touching the ball.

First one of the Sweet 16...

Syracuse vs Wisconsin.
Block/Charge play at the 3:50 mark of the second half.

Block/charge call with 2:05 left in 2nd half leading to correctable error FT situation in Louisville/Mich St.

UF/Louisville
 

APG (or anybody else with his skills), the sequence that results with UF shooting free-throws at the 6:23 mark of the 2nd half.

Maybe or maybe not a BC violation. Definitely don't agree with the block call by Hess.

Passed on the initial foul by defender and BC violation - called it a saw-off. Then had no choice but to call something on second contact - but doesn't want to reward defender for initiating the whole sequence.

Should have called the first bump that caused the BC violation.

Tough one, but I completely understand why Hess did what he did.

13:06 1s half SYR/OSU

Did I see this correctly?

I think #32 OSU comes out of the game after a foul and before the first of two and then it appears coach changes mind and sends him to table to sub back and returns after the first free throw.

Or did I miss a play in between?

You missed it entirely. That was Smith Jr. for OSU, who had left the game a few minutes earlier after taking an inadvertent blow to the head. He had gone to the locker room. WHat you saw on TV was him returning to the bench and sitting down, then immediately getting back up to re-enter the game.

Thanks, thats what i get for being on a laptop and not paying attention.

I saw foul, looked down, looked up, saw player sit down and returned. Just assumed it was same guy. thanks for the clarification.

Block/Charge call with around 6:00 min left in the first half or Syracuse/Ohio State.

Boeheim was rung up. Saw one replay, disagree with the PC foul.

Same. I thought the defender moved to the spot after the shooter became airborne. Block.

Kentucky vs Louisville 3/31/12
 

2:30 left, 2nd half.

#20 white, drive on the C side.

Block/Charge crash with #10 red; no-call.

Followed by a white rebound with a +1 foul shot.

Yep, that was definitely a missed call. Substantial contact involving a shooter, 2 players went down. Gotta have something on that one.