You make the call......
 

The original call, IMO, was right. Count it.

Bear in mind, it took me about 4 views and stop action to come to that conclusion -- real-time, I thought the shot was late.

WOW!

That is one of the closest ones I have ever seen. I haven't done the stop action bit that Rich did, so it seems like it was late to me.

Took far more than four views and caught ball out of his hands before light goes on......count it. Doesn't get much closer.

Tough
 

Same here. It's tough but my first reaction was no good.

I showed the video to the seniors club at my local KoC and they love the videos.

2 guys said count in, 3 guys said it's late.

I still haven't made up my mind.

Saw this last week from a ref friend and I was thinking out loud.....you know game is tied, not 100 percent either way. Call it no good and settle it in OT.

Hindsight of course and would never have time to think this through.....but?

OK, game on.

I thought is was good. But it's so close I definitely don't have a problem with them waving it off.

Actually, anyone who is not phased by the situation might suggest to go to OT4.

Second half of the equasion. C called it good. They got together and was overruled by the L who was also the R.

I'd sink or swim as a crew as it was that close unless R may have felt like I was musing about.

What the heck, having almost week to think about this, If I was calling official.....wave it off and go to yet another OT.

One voice on this call however, IMHO

Game speed, close as it gets. Call could go either way. Slow Motion, Count It.

Looked good in real time to me.

wave it off...clock, LED lights, horn, then release....

So the poll in the local paper is split, just like this forum. So, do you let the C make the call and go with it or get together, discuss and make a group decision.
If your the C do you allow your call to be overturned?

Does the fact its triple OT in state tourney change anything.

Suddenly, I'm liking the NFHS instant play rule a lot more.

I just know that if I'm his partner and I don't feel 100% that shot was no-good then I'm not offering any opinion. The Trail does have a good look at both the red light LED and the shooter while the C is not in a great position to see the LED.

And the verdict is...
 

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Told ya..........

Hey, I'm an official. It's not the first time I've ever been wrong :) But I sure can't blame the crew for not getting this one if someone wasn't 100% sure.

Ooops. :p

I had a charge by the Red player who put up the intial missed shot.

MTD, Sr.

Wasn't really directed at you:D, I also played at least 20 times to get right freeze frame.

How did you get the slo mo?

Of course you did. You always do.

I have editing/capturing stuff (I work in TV) so I can get nerdy with these things when I have time :)

It was an easy call. The dribbler pushed off with her free arm and practically knocked the defendeer on her tuchus.

MTD, Sr.

If you caught that, did you happen to catch that it's a boys game?

Boy, ya' don't see the word "tuchus" used much on this board. Oy! :)

That is why I am such a great basketball official: I am blind in one eye and can't see out of the other. LOL

MTD, Sr.

Maybe, but the R coming in to overrule this one is just big timing, IMO, when it's this close (let alone when he's wrong).

I agree now that I take another glance at it. The C was emphatic with scoring the goal. It would be interesting to know what his partners said to him but if I'm that strong calling a last-second shot - one way or another - I'd like to think my partners would trust me, especially since it's my call.

One more eye, and they'd call you Cyclops

Yup, Yup,Yup

You may have a point here...minus the gender confusion.

It looked like a possible flop on the defender, but what about the push off on the offensive player driving to the basket?

Would like to see if the T had an equally emphatic wave off. The C definitely thought it was good.

could be that this falls into the "big timing" category....

i can easily see a different scenario: T comes in to ask if the C was 100% certain if shot was good....C says he wasn't 100% sure, T said he thought it was no good...."if we're not sure, we can always go to another overtime".....

Hard one
 

On first view, I thought no good. Of course, now we all know it was good.

I didn't think it was an offensive foul either, as the player didn't extend or displace the defender. Looked like a classic flop there, but the angle isn't great to be certain one way or the other.

It wasn't the T's call so he wouldn't/shouldn't have been making a signal one way or the other.

It looks like the C went right over to the T after the call, though you can't tell whether he went on his own or was called over. Guessing here but I'll say he was called over since I know if I was that strong with a game-winning shot I would've just started running off the court.

Guessing again I'm thinking the T either said "are you sure?" or "the shot was late." Again, I'm still surprised the C changed his call because he was so emphatic that it was good.

The T did not do anything to signal what he thought. The officials did come together so that they could get it right. The call was going to send someone home and the C wanted to be sure and put aside his ego in order to confer with his partners. Also the C had about 6 players in front of him and the light and the clock did not match up. There is a picture (which I will have to find again) that shows the light on with .01 seconds left on the clock.

Remember these guys did not have replay to review like the NCAA guys. If the original call stood someone was going home. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Peace