Making Sure Refs Follow Rules Too

grunewar

Thought some of you might find this interesting.

Making sure the refs follow the rules, too | Washington Examiner

Unlike Padgett's corner of the world, local officials and leagues don't get too much press around here.......I guess that may be because our "local paper" is the Washington Post! 🙄

BillyMac

grunewar wrote
Thought some of you might find this interesting.

"They discuss that both teams have a go-to scorer, C.J. McCollum of Lehigh and Charles Hinkle of AU, except they are never referred to by name, only number. Greenwood asks the referees to take note of who they are charging with fouls. Translation: When trying to establish the tenor of the game early, don't get either of the go-to players into foul trouble. "If it's a foul, it's a foul. We have to call it," Greenwood says. "But we do have to be mindful who we're calling it against"".

Let the games begin.

Duffman

I hate this ****. I hated this **** as a player also. The rules should apply to everyone.

Bad Zebra

BillyMac wrote
"They discuss that both teams have a go-to scorer, C.J. McCollum of Lehigh and Charles Hinkle of AU, except they are never referred to by name, only number. Greenwood asks the referees to take note of who they are charging with fouls. Translation: When trying to establish the tenor of the game early, don't get either of the go-to players into foul trouble. "If it's a foul, it's a foul. We have to call it," Greenwood says. "But we do have to be mindful who we're calling it against".

Let the games begin.

Sounds like an NBA mentality. Pretty surprised an NCAA assignor would make a quote like that to the media.

tomegun

I can go one (or several) further. I know of a situation where a coach flat out told a coach that if he would have charged a foul to player X it would have been his fourth. He said this in the second half meaning he said it loud enough for the coach to hear it at the other end of the court. The coach who the foul was called for could have easily heard it and went crazy.

What do you guys think of that?

Lcubed48

grunewar wrote
Thought some of you might find this interesting.

Making sure the refs follow the rules, too | Washington Examiner

Unlike Padgett's corner of the world, local officials and leagues don't get too much press around here.......I guess that may be because our "local paper" is the Washington Post! :rolleyes:

The tonsorially challenged ref in the picture is a neighbor of mine. He took a trip to China to call a couple of preseason games during the NBA officials' lock out whenever it was.

Raymond

BillyMac wrote
"They discuss that both teams have a go-to scorer, C.J. McCollum of Lehigh and Charles Hinkle of AU, except they are never referred to by name, only number. Greenwood asks the referees to take note of who they are charging with fouls. Translation: When trying to establish the tenor of the game early, don't get either of the go-to players into foul trouble. "If it's a foul, it's a foul. We have to call it," Greenwood says. "But we do have to be mindful who we're calling it against".

Let the games begin.

Bad Zebra wrote
Sounds like an NBA mentality. Pretty surprised an NCAA assignor would make a quote like that to the media.

Reggie Greenwood did not make the bolded statement. The reporter inserted it in between quotes from Mr. Greenwood making it easy to infer that this was Mr. Greenwood's mentality.

Billy incorrectly added quotation marks to the beginning of the passage.

Adam

Duffman wrote
I hate this ****. I hated this **** as a player also. The rules should apply to everyone.

You hate what?

BadNewsRef wrote
Reggie Greenwood did not make the bolded statement. The reporter inserted it in between quotes from Mr. Greenwood making it easy to infer that this was Mr. Greenwood's mentality.

Billy incorrectly added quotation marks to the beginning of the passage.

Agreed, and it further illuminates the issue with letting a reporter into the pregame.

Raymond

tomegun wrote
I can go one (or several) further. I know of a situation where a coach flat out told a coach that if he would have charged a foul to player X it would have been his fourth. He said this in the second half meaning he said it loud enough for the coach to hear it at the other end of the court. The coach who the foul was called for could have easily heard it and went crazy.

What do you guys think of that?

Well, you've given no information as to what the official(s) did on the play so all I can say is that it sounds like something I've heard coaches say before.

JRutledge

This sounds like a quote that might not have been the entire comment. This is the problem with talking to the media. They piece comments together to make the comment different than what the person was saying.

And yes you need to know who you are calling a foul on. If you do not do that you are not aware of the entire game.

Peace

Raymond

Snaqwells wrote
You hate what?

...

Uh, duh, it's obvious. He hates asterisks.

BillyMac

BadNewsRef wrote
Billy incorrectly added quotation marks to the beginning of the passage.

No I didn't. I was incorrect in not adding a second quotation mark at the end of the statement. I fixed it.

Duffman

I hate when officials calls are influenced by anything other than players actions on the court.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

"But we do have to be mindful who we're calling it against".

That statement made me want to regurgitate my lunch.

MTD, Sr.

JRutledge

Duffman wrote
I hate when officials calls are influenced by anything other than players actions on the court.

I think you are reading a little too much into the quote honestly.

Unless you can find where he says not to call fouls on particular players, then show me where that was stated in this article.

Peace

Duffman

I can think of no other interpretation for "we have to be mindful of who we are calling it against".

JRutledge

Duffman wrote
I can think of no other interpretation for "we have to be mindful of who we are calling it against".

Yes there is. You can know who you are calling a foul on and not give anyone a break. Heck I watch all the time who is guarding the best players and what they are doing to stop them. This happen to us on Friday where it was clear the opponent was holding, grabbing and being physical to prevent the best player from getting the ball in the post. This is why I do not trust news paper quotes that were not elaborated on as the final conclusion.

Peace

Adam

Duffman wrote
I can think of no other interpretation for "we have to be mindful of who we are calling it against".

Maybe in a few more years, you will. 😉

tomegun

BadNewsRef wrote
Well, you've given no information as to what the official(s) did on the play so all I can say is that it sounds like something I've heard coaches say before.

Sorry about that. The official told a coach, "I didn't call it on _____ because that would have been his fourth foul." He said this to the player's coach in the second half. Because the coach was on the other end of the court he said it loud enough that the other coach could have easily heard it. I hope that makes more sense.

Raymond

tomegun wrote
Sorry about that. The official told a coach, "I didn't call it on _____ because that would have been his fourth foul." He said this to the player's coach in the second half. Because the coach was on the other end of the court he said it loud enough that the other coach could have easily heard it. I hope that makes more sense.

Well then, yes that would have a problem.