IN tournament

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

As someone who grew up in Indiana I can't say this suprised me. They got rid of the best HS format in the country and every pox like thing that happens to the tournament is well deserved!

Yeah, cause small schools don't deserve more than one championship per century.

Where's my smiley?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yeah, cause small schools don't deserve more than one championship per century.

Where's my smiley?

Yeah, really. Why should kids from a small school have any reasonable chance to win? How dare they?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Judtech

As someone who grew up in Indiana I can't say this suprised me. They got rid of the best HS format in the country and every pox like thing that happens to the tournament is well deserved!

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yeah, cause small schools don't deserve more than one championship per century.

Where's my smiley?

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Yeah, really. Why should kids from a small school have any reasonable chance to win? How dare they?

Well they went from 2 classes to 4 classes and people here are still ticked off about it. I think people like the tradition and cannot let that go.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well they went from 2 classes to 4 classes and people here are still ticked off about it. I think people like the tradition and cannot let that go.

Peace

There was a lot of that reaction when Iowa dropped 6 on 6 girls basketball.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

There was a lot of that reaction when Iowa dropped 6 on 6 girls basketball.

This is a little different IMO. This was more of a format issue. People loved the Elite 8 format that would bring 8 teams to the State Finals in the two classes. Now there are two titles each weekend and it is seen as taking away the excitement of the entire weekend in many people's minds. And I think 4 classes were two much, 3 would have been better. Big schools like the fact they can compete and play each other. The problem were the smaller schools that would two schools with 50 students could play 500 students. The school with 50 would claim that it was not fair, but funny a few state champions in the old Class A would win titles over the larger schools in that class.

Peace

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This is a little different IMO. This was more of a format issue. People loved the Elite 8 format that would bring 8 teams to the State Finals in the two classes. Now there are two titles each weekend and it is seen as taking away the excitement of the entire weekend in many people's minds. And I think 4 classes were two much, 3 would have been better. Big schools like the fact they can compete and play each other. The problem were the smaller schools that would two schools with 50 students could play 500 students. The school with 50 would claim that it was not fair, but funny a few state champions in the old Class A would win titles over the larger schools in that class.

Peace

I think the Whip-Pers of Hampshire High one a class A girls title back in the day

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I think the Whip-Pers of Hampshire High one a class A girls title back in the day

That school has grown since and is a 3A school now.

Peace

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Yeah, really. Why should kids from a small school have any reasonable chance to win? How dare they?

Come on now, how else were they going to make "Hoosiers 2"?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Yeah, really. Why should kids from a small school have any reasonable chance to win? How dare they?

You could go all the way to the Oregon model where everyone gets championship! Can't have any little Johnny's upset because they had to compete with a school that had 3 more students!

We have 6 classes in Oregon....across a total of 290 schools, distributed roughly equally across the 6 classes except that 1A has about twice as many as the others (which have around 40 each).

IMO, Oregon doesn't have enough people/schools to justify 6 classes. (Population about 3.8 million). About 5-6 years ago, they changed from 4 classes to 6 classes to give more kids chances to win...more balanced competitively. I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon schools have the smallest number of opponents in their classification of any state in the US.

[Judtech]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yeah, cause small schools don't deserve more than one championship per century.

Where's my smiley?

I think a lot of people would have been happy if they had gone to 2 classes. But I went to be of the smaller HS and always looked forward to our 'shot' against the Big Boys in Sectionals. But that's because winning Sectionals or Reigionals was still a big deal.
Plus, when you could put 60k+ in the stands for a state Championship game you really had something.
Now, it's just like everyone's else. Except apparently Oregon where they just give out participation certificates and call them championships!