Jump Ball 3 whistles?
 

At a play off last night, Girls Varsity, 3 man crew.

Had a held ball past into the lane from lead's position, and all 3 guys blew their whistle.

Is this acceptable? Should all 3 guys be looking at the ball?

I could see, 2 whistle, but 3?

Playoffs=edgy=quick whistles

Lord no

I'd like to think it would be okay for all 3 officials to be cognizant of whats going on in the f/c paint.
Perhaps 3 whistles weren't needed but as long as all 3 didnt close down on it, WTH. From my experience, girls games typically have more held balls than boys games. That could've been a focal point of their pregame discussion.

Where was the play? If it was outside the paint on strong side C doesn't need to have a whistle as either the Lead or the Trail should be able to see it.

If the play curled into the paint that the C has a good look and either the Lead or the Trail is most likely straight-lined so the C and whichever of the other 2 that had a open look should have the other whistle.

Also, if there has been any rough play previously the crew might have just been hyper-sensistive to any possible scrums.

In a girl's game, the paint is everyone's primary as far as I am concerned. So would I be worried about 3 whistles - no. Would we laugh about it and give each other crap about it later - absolutely.

Well, there is ONE spot on the floor where at least some part of the play will be in all 3 official's primary.

Opposite of the C, in the lane, near the FT line. Back to C he could not possibly see the held ball.

Anyone surprised?

What did I say that was out of line now? And why are you so obsessed?

I would think unless it was a scrum on the floor that at least one official would have to straight-lined.

No big deal. But in a camp I know something would be said if 3 whistles were put on a routine held ball.

Didn't say you were out of line, but after all the defending of your position that it's completely fine for an official to be focusing on the ball when it's not in his primary, I'm just wondering if anyone's surprised at your reply that 3 whistles was OK on this play.

Obsessed? Hardly ... with what?!?!

Were the whistles late?

Dude, I never said FOCUSING on a ball out of your PCA was ok.
If nobody is in your PCA do you referee the paint & lines?
Or is it okay to go referee some players?

Should we have tunnel vision on our PCA?
Or is it okay use our FOV?

You act as if multi-tasking is not a skillset officials should have!

With what I dont know, but I wasnt the ONLY person who said that...

It seems as though every step I take, every post I make, you'll be watching me.

For once I agree with your statement :p Some plays have a congestion of players in one area. Jump balls are usually congested mess and can have all the players in one spot with players not in the scrum standing around waiting for the outcome. At the free throw line, in the end of everyone's coverage area a triple whistle is fine.... As long as one doesn't come up held ball, one comes up with a travel, and another comes up with a foul. :eek:

OK, ok... it was an attempt to bring in a little levity based on the previously heated conversation. I see now that it was too personal to you, and I apologize - I can see how this looked like an attack from your side. Sorry about that.

In a Girl's High School game, so much of the offense is geared around getting the ball into the paint, and Coaches/players get so upset when something is missed in the paint, that I always pregame with my P's that the key is everyone's PCA tonight. If you see something in the key, call it. So like I said before - 3 whistles on this play is not that big of a deal.

I see 3 whistles in the NBA on a yearly basis. It could happen in a Fed game too.

Not at all. I could easily position the officials and players such that none would be straight-lined.

Lets see if this ascii drawing comes through...(players just under the FT line)

Every official in this arrangement can see through the play.

X & O would be closer on a held ball based on the scale of your diagram and either the T or L would not be to see the ball without some extreme movement by the L or T. I just don't see all 3 officials having an open look.

Sure they could. Not all held balls are in tight....or maybe the ball is not centered. It is not at all difficult for all 3 to be able to see it.

In the play I described, They were opposite of the "C" with their back to the "C" he could not see the ball.

I digress here somwhat. Pet peeve is the quick whistle, usually in a girls game, where there is no tie up, just a loose ball(I know, "I don't want anyone to get hurt") or one quick tug and defender rips ball from opponent and there is the quick whistle to let everyone know that he's all over the play........aaarghh!

I digress here somewhat. Pet peeve is the quick whistle, usually in a girls game, where there is no tie up, just a loose ball(I know, "I don't want anyone to get hurt") or one quick tug and defender rips ball from opponent and there is the quick whistle to let everyone know that he's all over the play........aaarghh!