Call Decides Harvard-Penn game
 

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Tough situation to be in: What do you have on this one out of Boston last night?

Headline should read, "Lack of pass to open teammate decides Harvard-Penn game".

Look, the announcer said, "he was there early." What more need be said?

Tough situation?
 

Why is it a tough situation? The defender established LGP outside the restricted area before the shooter went airborne. We get paid - and in the case of D-I officials, quite a bit - to make those calls.

I have a correct call by the official who was in perfect position with a great view of the play. What's tough about it?

#1, the call didn't decide the game.

#2, it's a great call.

#3, it wasn't that difficult of a call IMO.

It is only tough if you are a fanboy.

My thinking as well but I let it ride.

His only other post was not in praise of officials either, so I'm sure you're correct.

Curious about the other post, but not THAT curious.

See edit above.

You'd better re-edit before "you know who" shows up.;)

Must be getting close to March.

Tell us what the he$$ you would call and why!

It's Lin-Sane ...
 

Jeremy Lin would have never charged in that situation.

i thought harvard players and fans were smarter than that :D

I too had a relatively easy charge call!

Amaker and the culprit seemed to realize it was the correct call, so I give credit to the players. Fans? They're stupid no matter how smart they are. :cool:

One of the biggest myths is that Ivy League students are smarter than everyone. ;)

Peace

This pretty much sums it up.

Well apparently at least one is smart enough to upload video to our site.

Since this call decided the game, the officials must be happy they got it right.

Nothing real tough about this play...pretty easy charge call.

Agree ...
 

Ordinary garden variety charge.

P.S. I started my impatiens seeds under lights, and over warming mats in my basement today. Spring is right around the corner. And If we ever legalize medical marijuana here in the Land of Steady Habits, I'm ready to open up my own personal pharmacy. Does it work with old, "beat up" ankles, and knees? How about it Mark Padgett? You must know some tree hugging, pot smoking, hippies in the "Beaver State? Oregon was recently named one of the favorite states of liberals. Surprised?

http://blogs.wpri.com/2012/02/23/pol...cans-not-sure/

Worst thread title ever.

Fixed it for ya. No charge.:D

What in the blue hell are you talking about Billy? :confused:

I say that most of the time he posts. ;)

Peace

Springtime For BillyMac In Connecticut ...
 

The "ordinary garden variety" charge call reminded me that spring is right around the corner. My impatiens go in the ground in about ten weeks. It's the most wonderful time of the year. And AllPurposeGamer is corect. Connecticut is one of the the bluest of the blue states. We even have "Blue Laws".

Are you sure you have not been "smoking" that lately?

Peace

Governor Mary Jane Malloy ...
 

Surprisingly, medical marijuana not yet legal in Connecticut. Our state legislator is looking at this right now, and our governor says that he will sign the bill if it's put in front of him. And I was wrong in my previous post. The beginning of basketball season is the most wonderful time of the year. Getting ready to put in my vegetable, and flower, garden is the second most wonderful time of the year.

If he doesn't sign the bill, you can always move out here to Oregon. ;)

I guess I should rephrase...what in the blue hell does your gardening activities or medical marijuana have to do with the block charge play in the OP? :confused:

Ordinary Garden Variety
 

The call being an ordinary garden variety charge call. I've got gardening on my mind today. It's the second most wonderful time of the year. I can't wait to see the centerfold in my next seed catalog. My last seed catalog had a real hot petunia as the centerfold.

Saw this live and thought it was super-standard. Not even close. Would have been controversial if it hadn't been called!

Another Correct Post, I'm On A Roll ...
 

Like I said, an ordinary garden variety charge call.

Post of the Day.

Billy, you need to work another sport. You have too much free time on your hands.

If only you'd stopped there.
he said wishfully

Thanks anncr
 

I was pleased to hear that the defender "was set."

To be fair I believe he meant he was "set before the player went airborne", which is relevant for this particular play.

Didn't say those words exactly but he said he was there early. Like when an announcers says "a good over-the-back call" when there was actually a good push foul called.

What if he moved backwards while the player was in the air? ;)

Bad M&M Guy.

Aww come on man, Elmer's couldn't even use the last equine we flagellated.

Oh, I know; I think my brain is just shutting down for the evening, and I posted during a weak moment.

As far as the OP, it was a pretty simple, correct call. I wish the poster would come back and respond to our comments. But, then again, I figure (s)he is back on the fan boards so (s)he can commiserate with only people that agree.

That would have put him in the RA and made it a block! :D

:D

Unfortunately, that's not really true. Now, it may seem like all I ever do is argue with you, and that's not my intent. But in the case of NCAA rules, and the RA, the secondary defender can establish an initial guarding position outside the RA, and if contact occurs in the defender's torso as the defender is retreating, it would still be a charge.

But the effort was certainly appreciated. ;) :D

Thanks for all the responses.

I thought it was the right call, but I didn't expect 100 percent agreement, and I was hoping for more discussion on why it was a no-brainer instead of only that it was a no-brainer, so I could gain insight into one of the tougher calls (to me) in basketball. That seemed like an O.K. reason to post here.

It's a no brainer because the defender obtained an initial legal guarding position by virtue of having two feet on the floor and his torso facing the defender, and gaining that LGP before the player with the ball was airborne. Time and distance did not apply because the player had the ball and no time and distance is afforded for him.

The "call" did not decide this game. As is almost always the case, the players decided this game.

Instead of focusing on the official who did his job and made the correct, and relatively easy, call; the focus should be on the defender who rotated over to help and made a hell of a defensive play to help secure a W for his team.

Sometimes the call makes itself. This one is textbook. This one is one we've seen 1000 times in clinics. Thus the fact that no one felt the need to explain it. If a play was created to be an example in the book, this one could be it.

I'm thinking the headline should have been... 20 missed shots including 2-11 from 3, 6 missed free throws and 20 turnovers decide Harvard Penn game. But then that would have been a lot of video to post.

I was really only joking in reference to the other recent topic about a defender moving back relative to LGP.....but twisted to "RA" just for kicks.

You'll have to forgive us; it's like Pavlov's bells this time of year, and you played all the right notes.

Maybe you could answer a question: why did you think it was close?

Ok.

And, (as expected): shut up. :D

Mechanics thought
 

As this was a secondary defender who came from the edge of the C's primary while the Lead was watching the first match-up, does anyone else think that the C could certainly have had a whistle on this?

I did look closely at the C and he gets stuck behind a couple of players and has to lean to peek around them, definitely not the best look.

Thankfully, the Lead nailed the call. I was able to pause the video at 19 seconds with the defender in perfect LGP prior to the offensive player leaving the floor or the contact occuring.

+1 :)