Originally Posted by The_Rookie (Post 826597)

Bench Decorum has been a POE.. Normally, its about the interaction with the officials. But how do we handle a coach who is frustrated with his TEAM's PERFOMANCE who for example is ranting and stomping his feet and even throwing a towel at the bench area.

Do we concern ourselves with this since not directed at the officials??

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 826604)

I do not care hardly at all what a coach does when they are not yelling at me or not using profanity directed at me or an opponent. Coaches get excited and that is OK just like it is OK for a player to get excited sometimes. It is really a case by case situation too. I cannot ever think of a time I really said much to a coach that was simply coaching.

Peace

Originally Posted by tref (Post 826611)

True story! But stomping & throwing things on the sideline could be considered unsporting behavior whether he's directing it towards his team or our team.

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 826614)

People can consider any number of things unsporting, but that does not mean it is right or using good common sense.

Peace

Originally Posted by tref (Post 826611)

True story! But stomping & throwing things on the sideline could be considered unsporting behavior whether he's directing it towards his team or our team.

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 826623)

I can't imagine a case where stomping would be a T worthy offense unless my foot was in the landing area.

Throwing things at the bench is a
HTBT case.

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 826604)

I do not care hardly at all what a coach does when they are not yelling at me or not using profanity directed at me or an opponent. Coaches get excited and that is OK just like it is OK for a player to get excited sometimes. It is really a case by case situation too. I cannot ever think of a time I really said much to a coach that was simply coaching.

Peace

Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 826632)

NFHS 10-4-1c says coaches/bench personnel shall not use profanity or inappropriate language or obscene gestures.

In other words, by rule it doesn't matter if they say it to us, the other team or their own players.

Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 826632)

I work the majority of my H.S. games for the NYC Public Schools Athletic League (PSAL). For the 2010-11 season the PSAL adopted a no tolerance policy on profanity...esssentially, telling us to enforce 10-3-6b and 10-4-1c to the letter. I rang up a coach this season who dropped an F-bomb during OT after his team turned the ball over...and he said it loud enough that players on the other team heard him. He was more embarrassed than upset...and relieved because his team won.

One thing I will say is it has cut down on a lot of player/player nonsense as well as stuff directed towards us.

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 826626)

Are you talking in general, or when you know the coach is addressing his team? I can't imagine letting either of these go if they're directed at me.

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 826651)

For throwing things it better not be because of a call. Now if its a hard object I will not likely care what the reason was.

For the stomping that is in general. We have a few stoppers around here and its an amusement to us and not a conduct issue.

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 826638)

You obviously did not read or understand what I said if you are referencing the rules on profanity. And in the real world people use profanity and many people cannot agree what is profane or what is out of line. And since language and meaning changes all the time, what one person finds offensive or profane, another person finds just acceptable.



That is wonderful where you live and that they have a policy, but I can imagine that many places do not have a specific policy on what specific language is considered profane and then it is up to the judgment of the officials to decide what they will tolerate and what to penalize. I work in many places that if I penalized every bad word I would have multiple Ts a game. Often all you have to do is have a little word and it amazingly stops. But again unsporting behavior is not only about bad words and this is what the OP was asking, not about profanity. I do not see stomping as an illegal act in the rulebook, but if done in the right context it would be considered illegal.

Peace

Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 826781)

JR, I believe understood what you said which is why I referenced profanity as opposed to the OP. If a coach is using profanity with/at his/her kids we can deal with it and we should. As to what constitutes profanity, I'm sure there are basic words most people would lump into that category.