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stiffler3492 Mon Feb 20, 2012 01:51pm

Illegal Screen?
 
Try and stay with me on this one. It might be hard to envision.

Team A has a fast break, and A1 has the ball coming down the right side of the floor. A2 is running right with A1, and on the same side of the floor, but closer to the middle of the floor.

B1 is coming down the middle of the floor trying to catch up with A1. A2 then moves into B1's path and faces the basket. He sticks his rear end out and kind of looks for B1 to make sure he contacts B1. He does, and I wave off the layup and call an illegal screen.

I called it not because A2 didn't give B1 time and distance to avoid it, but because of the way he was standing when contact was made (with his butt out). Ever seen this play, or did I get it wrong?

Welpe Mon Feb 20, 2012 01:53pm

Sounds like he violated the principle of verticality...in a rather unusual way. I think you did well.

26 Year Gap Mon Feb 20, 2012 01:55pm

And depending on how you viewed it, it could have been an IF or worse.

JRutledge Mon Feb 20, 2012 01:59pm

I have seen this many times and should be called a foul as I have many times myself. He is screening the player from making a play and all the principles of time and distance matter just like any other screen. It just is not what people see as a screen because he did not face the guy and get in his way.

Peace

Indianaref Mon Feb 20, 2012 02:05pm

I think you have it right. I also have had to call similar illegal screens when a teammate of A1 holds or impedes the progress of an opponent.

JugglingReferee Mon Feb 20, 2012 02:41pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 826045)
Try and stay with me on this one. It might be hard to envision.

Team A has a fast break, and A1 has the ball coming down the right side of the floor. A2 is running right with A1, and on the same side of the floor, but closer to the middle of the floor.

B1 is coming down the middle of the floor trying to catch up with A1. A2 then moves into B1's path and faces the basket. He sticks his rear end out and kind of looks for B1 to make sure he contacts B1. He does, and I wave off the layup and call an illegal screen.

I called it not because A2 didn't give B1 time and distance to avoid it, but because of the way he was standing when contact was made (with his butt out). Ever seen this play, or did I get it wrong?

Have seen it. Called it right away.

Good job!

Haven't seen it for awhile though.

twocentsworth Mon Feb 20, 2012 05:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 826045)
Ever seen this play, or did I get it wrong?

this type of play happens more often than people think.....

just make sure that the defender truly is being prevented from making a play on the ball handler/shooter.

i have seen it and have not called it because there was NO WAY the impacted defender could have had any effect/impact on the ball handler/shooter.

BillyMac Mon Feb 20, 2012 06:26pm

Moving Screen, Moving Screen, Moving Screen ...
 
Remember that there has to be illegal contact for a screen to be illegal, and thus, a foul.

SoInZebra Mon Feb 20, 2012 07:47pm

Google Bill Lambier.....


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