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cmathews Tue Jun 10, 2003 08:33am

Chuck,
I agree with your situation,my situation which was the one above assumed the player had the ball in their possesion. You know the people in the stands who think that we as officials don't care or don't "know" the rules, really should take a look at this forum and see how much we disect such a simple situation as over and back. It all helps on the floor because we have "seen" it in the forum :)

Chin Ref Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:33pm

Pls tell me if I ref correctly by seeing any one pt, ie either foot or the ball from the dribbler touching the FC, then he's in FC status

BktBallRef Wed Jun 11, 2003 10:58pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Chin Ref
Pls tell me if I ref correctly by seeing any one pt, ie either foot or the ball from the dribbler touching the FC, then he's in FC status
No, that's incorrect. A player dribbling the ball is not in the FC until both feet and the ball are in the FC.

Camron Rust Thu Jun 12, 2003 12:26pm

One thing that would make this who issue easier would be to completely rewrite this rule.

My <b>suggestion</b>:

Make a neutral zone about 6' wide at midcourt. A player would not be in the FC until they touched anything in front of the neutral zone. At that time, they could no longer touch the area behind the neutral zone. With enough distance, there would be no need for a 3-points for a dribbler rule, throw-in exception, steal exception, case book plays about straddling the line, etc. If you touch in the FC, you are in the FC. If you touch in the BC, you are in the BC. If you are in the NZ, you are where you last touched (FC/BC).

Mark Padgett Thu Jun 12, 2003 01:43pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Camron Rust
One thing that would make this who issue easier would be to completely rewrite this rule.

My <b>suggestion</b>:

Make a neutral zone about 6' wide at midcourt. A player would not be in the FC until they touched anything in front of the neutral zone. At that time, they could no longer touch the area behind the neutral zone. With enough distance, there would be no need for a 3-points for a dribbler rule, throw-in exception, steal exception, case book plays about straddling the line, etc. If you touch in the FC, you are in the FC. If you touch in the BC, you are in the BC. If you are in the NZ, you are where you last touched (FC/BC).

We could call it the DMZ.

Also - you could paint the new lines blue, put in a violation for a two-line pass and, wait, we already have that. It's called hockey.

BktBallRef Thu Jun 12, 2003 04:03pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark Padgett
Also - you could paint the new lines blue, put in a violation for a two-line pass and, wait, we already have that. It's called hockey.
I thought those blue lines on the basketball court were for volleyball. :confused:

AK ref SE Thu Jun 12, 2003 04:24pm

In my gym they are yellow lines!


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