Karl Hess tosses two NC State players

Adam

refiator wrote
Unbelievable....or not. But I love it.
I had a state tourney game today where 2 fans were removed...they were sitting behind the scorers table, and, unbeknownst to them, behind the site manager, who had them removed them for yelling disparaging statements about the officials. It turns out that they were the AD and Asst AD of the team that won by more than 20. Nice example.

That sort of behavior should be pubicized in the papers. Horrible that adults get away with this crap.

BballRookie

Karl Hess Ejects Tom Gugliotta, Chris Corchiani - YouTube

This is a youtube link of the guys getting tossed. Sitting right behind the scorers table I'm sure they got in some nasty shots throughout the game.

BktBallRef

I don't know what was said but I know a few things.

1- if the idiot is right behind the table and is a distractions when we're trying to report, then I'm much more likely to get rid of them.

2- my guess is they got personal with Hess.

3- Hess bought himself some unneeded publicity.

mbyron

26 Year Gap

mbyron wrote

Looks like Corchiani got an assist.

asdf

26 Year Gap wrote
Looks like Corchiani got an assist.

Great example setters for their kids.

Freaking clowns.....

twocentsworth

asdf wrote
Great example setters for their kids.

Freaking clowns.....

ur right....Karl Hess is a freaking clown!

CaRef5

twocentsworth wrote
ur right....Karl Hess is a freaking clown!

you're an idiot.

JRutledge

BktBallRef wrote
I don't know what was said but I know a few things.

1- if the idiot is right behind the table and is a distractions when we're trying to report, then I'm much more likely to get rid of them.

2- my guess is they got personal with Hess.

3- Hess bought himself some unneeded publicity.

Why is it unneeded? Was he doing his job? That is all that matters. If they got very personal they needed to go. And the comments did not have to be directed at Hess, they could have been about his partners or something that would be totally inappropriate. It probably happens more often but this happened to be two former players of that school and it made SportsCenter. And with everything on YouTube and Twitter (Corchiani Tweeted comments about Hess and being ejected), not much you can do to avoid the publicity in these days.

Peace

APG

JRutledge wrote
Why is it unneeded? Was he doing his job? That is all that matters. If they got very personal they needed to go. And the comments did not have to be directed at Hess, they could have been about his partners or something that would be totally inappropriate. It probably happens more often but this happened to be two former players of that school and it made SportsCenter. And with everything on YouTube and Twitter (Corchiani Tweeted comments about Hess and being ejected), not much you can do to avoid the publicity in these days.

Peace

Peace

I think BBR meant unneeded in the sense that Karl Hess could have gone to game management and told them that they needed to go instead of interacting with the culprits like he did. That's ideally how this situation should have been handled.

BillyMac

AllPurposeGamer wrote
Could have gone to game management and told them that they needed to go instead of interacting with the culprits like he did. That's ideally how this situation should have been handled.

Agree. He gave them the old baseball "You're Outta Here" heave-ho signal. I know more about medieval literature than I do about how to deal with an NCAA crowd, but in dealing with my high school crowds, I do not interact directly with unruly fans, I go directly to the site director, and let him deal with them. That's why he gets paid the big bucks.

JRutledge

AllPurposeGamer wrote
I think BBR meant unneeded in the sense that Karl Hess could have gone to game management and told them that they needed to go instead of interacting with the culprits like he did. That's ideally how this situation should have been handled.

He is at the table and they are saying things to him. I agree he could have walked away in a perfect world, but usually that is how you get in contact with GM is at the scorer's table. I doubt Hess or any of the officials would have gone to them at some other part of the arena unless they knew for certain where someone in charge could be.

Peace

26 Year Gap

JRutledge wrote
He is at the table and they are saying things to him. I agree he could have walked away in a perfect world, but usually that is how you get in contact with GM is at the scorer's table. I doubt Hess or any of the officials would have gone to them at some other part of the arena unless they knew for certain where someone in charge could be.

Peace

The game manager with the badge showed up fairly quickly. Playing to the moron fans on the way out should have gotten a game ban from the school. Doubt that will happen, though.

truerookie

The bottom line is Mr. Hess should not have interacted with them unless they were threatening him/partners physically.

It reminds me of a saying my parents told me while growing up.

"Stick and stones my break my bones but words will never hurt"

JRutledge

26 Year Gap wrote
The game manager with the badge showed up fairly quickly. Playing to the moron fans on the way out should have gotten a game ban from the school. Doubt that will happen, though.

I am sure there is going to be something said from the conference office based on the report given by the officials.

And for all we know there could have been some previous problems at this school and with these guys. Sometimes officials are put on notice of these things and take care of what has been a problem. I just do not like to draw conclusions based on a very little part of the overall story. I can imagine throwing out a fan if they say some very specific things and not waiting to have them ejected. If we did this more maybe fans would realize that paying your money and being close to the floor is not a license to say anything you want. I love how one of the guys said Hess had "rabbit ears" but for all we know he could have said something that most of us would be inappropriate.

Peace

JRutledge

truerookie wrote
The bottom line is Mr. Hess should not have interacted with them unless they were threatening him/partners physically.

It reminds me of a saying my parents told me while growing up.

"Stick and stones my break my bones but words will never hurt"

So if he made racial comments, sexual comments, comments about his family, those should be ignored?

Peace

Adam

truerookie wrote
The bottom line is Mr. Hess should not have interacted with them unless they were threatening him/partners physically.

It reminds me of a saying my parents told me while growing up.

"Stick and stones my break my bones but words will never hurt"

1. You don't know enough to reach your bottom line.

2. Physical threats aren't the only thing we need to address.

3. It was a stupid saying when I was a kid, and it's a stupid saying now.

26 Year Gap

JRutledge wrote
I am sure there is going to be something said from the conference office based on the report given by the officials.

And for all we know there could have been some previous problems at this school and with these guys. Sometimes officials are put on notice of these things and take care of what has been a problem. I just do not like to draw conclusions based on a very little part of the overall story. I can imagine throwing out a fan if they say some very specific things and not waiting to have them ejected. If we did this more maybe fans would realize that paying your money and being close to the floor is not a license to say anything you want. I love how one of the guys said Hess had "rabbit ears" but for all we know he could have said something that most of us would be inappropriate.

Peace

Somehow, I suspect very few guys with rabbit ears work ACC games.

JRutledge

26 Year Gap wrote
Somehow, I suspect very few guys with rabbit ears work ACC games.

And Big East. I think he is doing fine. 😉

Peace

truerookie

JRutledge wrote
So if he made racial comments, sexual comments, comments about his family, those should be ignored?

Peace

I'm saying yes. You don't get to that level worrying about what people are saying from the stands. They don't know me or my upbring to even comment on it.

It shows their ignorance in my book.

You just smile and say thank you and keep it moving.