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HawkeyeCubP Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:12pm
Important to tell B that it's a spot or running endline throw-in?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Recent IAABO Board Interpreters' Conference Call
Teams who are entitled the privilege of the endline, all 10 players should be
given the same disclosure. How many times when team A is entitled to the
endline, and perhaps have come out of a time out early and B is still in their
huddle, that we notify team A that they are entitled to the run, but fail to notify
the 5 players from team B, that A has the run?
What think ye?

Edit to include my answer of, "Every time - unless B asks."

Adam Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:14pm
I say it as I'm bouncing the ball, loud enough for anyone in the vicinity to hear, while I either point to the spot or move my hand back and forth.

mbyron Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:20pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 823844)
I say it as I'm bouncing the ball, loud enough for anyone in the vicinity to hear, while I either point to the spot or move my hand back and forth.
Me too.

PG_Ref Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:22pm
I say their coach should tell them. That's why they get paid the BIG bucks, right?

bob jenkins Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:22pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 823844)
I say it as I'm bouncing the ball, loud enough for anyone in the vicinity to hear, while I either point to the spot or move my hand back and forth.
Give the signal as I'm blowing the whistle, before handing the ball.

Loudwhistle2 Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:23pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by snaqwells (Post 823844)
i say it as i'm bouncing the ball, loud enough for anyone in the vicinity to hear, while i either point to the spot or move my hand back and forth.
+1

HawkeyeCubP Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:24pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 823844)
I say it as I'm bouncing the ball, loud enough for anyone in the vicinity to hear, while I either point to the spot or move my hand back and forth.
As do I, but my issue is with the highlighted part of the statement:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Recent IAABO Board Interpreters' Conference Call
Teams who are entitled the privilege of the endline, all 10 players should be
given the same disclosure. How many times when team A is entitled to the
endline, and perhaps have come out of a time out early and B is still in their
huddle, that we notify team A that they are entitled to the run, but fail to notify
the 5 players from team B, that A has the run?

bainsey Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:28pm
Our basic procedure, coming out of a time out:

*Tweet
*"White ball!" (pointing with arm)
*"Designated"/"End line" (point to spot or sweeping arm)

As the thrower-in is coming out of the time out, I'll also give a verbal reminder ("14, you can run the end line, if you want"), but that's just me. One girl smiled at me and replied, "Well, I don't want to!" I just chuckled and gave my wife's favorite word: "FINE!"

JugglingReferee Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:32pm
My visual signal is for everyone.

jdw3018 Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:36pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP (Post 823853)
As do I, but my issue is with the highlighted part of the statement:
I don't take that as meaning we have to make sure every player knows, but rather that the signal/verbalization/however you handle it is made in a way and at a time that everyone has the opportunity to know.

Essentially, don't say it to the thrower and then not indicate it once everyone is out of the huddle.

My procedure is similar to several above - I give a signal and verbalize "spot" or "can run the endline" right before my whistle and administering the throw-in.

Adam Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:37pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP (Post 823853)
As do I, but my issue is with the highlighted part of the statement:
Yeah, I noted that, but I'm not even announcing it to all the offensive players. Anyone who needs to know is going to be close enough when I make the announcement. That's good enough for me.

HawkeyeCubP Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:44pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 823865)
Yeah, I noted that, but I'm not even announcing it to all the offensive players. Anyone who needs to know is going to be close enough when I make the announcement. That's good enough for me.
Me too. (I get too easily perturbed by poor wording.)

Adam Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:45pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP (Post 823868)
Me too. (I get too easily perturbed by poor wording.)
Yeah, I have the same problem.

bob jenkins Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:46pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP (Post 823853)
As do I, but my issue is with the highlighted part of the statement:
Options:

1) Require a signed, notarized document from each player before putting the ball in play.

2) Just officiate.

Most would choose option 2.

HawkeyeCubP Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:51pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 823871)
1) Require a signed, notarized document from each player before putting the ball in play.
Maybe it'd just be more efficient to go out and get a blanket informed consent document signed by everyone during the same time I'm handing out technical fouls during half time of the JV game for varsity players dunking, in my plain clothes.:cool:


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