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No, I don't wait to see if the shot is successful, but I do wait to see if it's affected. Don't you? |
I am puzzled by how many people think it is okay to bail out V2 for making illegal contact with H1 when the illegal contact is the result of V2 playing out of control.
Once again, the key is H1 was prevented from standing upright within his Cylinder of Verticality by V2's illegal contact. We do not have to have H1 attempt to stand upright, V2's contact prevented H1 from standing upright. MTD, Sr. |
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RSBQ - Deals with a ball handler, generally on the perimeter. SDF - Deals with a would-be shooter on drives to the basket, below the FT line extended. Advantage/Disadvantage - Everything else falls under this, from the sound of the OP it doesnt seem like anyone was disadvantaged... play on! Possession consequence or clean up - This applied to rebounding situations. |
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I would also like to have some more details on the play. From how I envision the play based on the OP sounds like a no call to me. I think MTD's argument of verticality, freedom of movement, and automatic foul here is flawed. |
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Again, maybe I'm seeing this differently than you, but if A1 isn't affected in the slightest, I don't see the point of calling a foul. |
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But I don't see the need for the "sorry." These terms simply further break it down and make it easier for many to teach and understand application of 4.27.3 in relative situations. What's wrong with that? |
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Snaqs: I am not forgetting NFHS R4-S27-A3. As I just stated in my last post, we do not have to wait to see if H1 will attempt to stand upright, V2's contact prevented him from standing upright. Regarding to see if the shot is affected let me pose this play to you: A1 is running down the court and catches a pass (with both hands) while in the air (while both feet are off of the floor). Before A1 returns to the floor, B1 hacks (its a good hack, one that everybody in the next county can see, :D) A1 across the arm but does not cause A1 to lose control of the ball. A1 then lands on his right foot (now his pivot foot), which he then jumps off of and then lands on his left foot, which he then jumps off of and then releases a FGA which is successful. What do you have? MTD, Sr. |
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You are making assumptions not backed by the OP. |
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It does not matter whether or not H1 attemtped to stand upright within his CV, V2's contact prevented him from doing so. MTD, Sr. |
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Sounds like he didn't travel and it didn't stop him from continuing play, so I'm inclined to let it go unless the contact is severe. Or as my friend would say: "Game interrupter." :D |
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