Get a suitcase when you travel

[berserkBBK]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

check out this video:

LeBron James' jump stop/"travel" against the Boston Celtics in Game 2, 2010 Playoffs - YouTube

doesn't matter if this moves occurs in the NBA, NCAA, or High School....it is not a travel and, if you count correctly, you've got TWO steps after the gather....

Correct if you gather while in mid air. (Which the video shows he did).

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by berserkBBK

Correct if you gather while in mid air. (Which the video shows he did).

The video clearly shows he gathered the ball with his foot already on the floor...he then took one step...then landed on both feet simultaneously (a.k.a. a jump stop)...then left the floor to shoot.

I guess counting steps is harder for u than I thought. Sorry 'bout that.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

The video clearly shows he gathered the ball with his foot already on the floor...he then took one step...then landed on both feet simultaneously (a.k.a. a jump stop)...then left the floor to shoot.

I guess counting steps is harder for u than I thought. Sorry 'bout that.

While it may be fun to you to sound condescending about people's counting skills, your advice to count the number of steps to determine a travel violation has absolutely no support in the rules, and is not good advice for a newer official.

I can give you examples of a player taking 0 steps and be guilty of a travel, and taking 4 (or more) steps after ending a dribble and not be guilty of a travel. If an official uses your advice and simply counts the number of steps, they would be making more incorrect calls than correct.

The best advice is to still read and understand NFHS 4-44, and NCAA 4-72.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

I can give you examples of a player taking 0 steps and be guilty of a travel, and taking 4 (or more) steps after ending a dribble and not be guilty of a travel.

Hmmm...
0: rolling over, 4+: fumbling?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Hmmm...
0: rolling over, 4+: fumbling?

Jab steps normally (see Rich's frazier thread), but fumbles and bobbles too.

[berserkBBK]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

The video clearly shows he gathered the ball with his foot already on the floor...he then took one step...then landed on both feet simultaneously (a.k.a. a jump stop)...then left the floor to shoot.

I guess counting steps is harder for u than I thought. Sorry 'bout that.

I was just trying to help you, and the OP, out by saying it isn't always simply counting steps. If that is the way you want to do it go ahead. However, there are just too many situations that your idea doesn't work, and I can't allow this idea to teach someone without saying why it isn't as simple as counting. I hope your condescension doesn't get in the way with learning different ways to expand your officiating.