Reporting Fouls to table
 

One hand or two when reporting the number on a foul to the table in Fed? I see more and more guys going with two hands.

One hand is the NFHS mechanic. Two hands for college.

By strict NFHS mechanics, one is to use one-handed reporting but there are some areas that don't care either way.

Around here, they frown on using college mechanics for high school games.

By "they," I mean our association leadership, who largely work some college ball themselves.

What does your boss say?

I'm told that next year we're supposed to use two-hand reporting in HS.

One if by Fed, Two if by . . .
 

Here's hoping chseagle isn't dyslexic. :D

Or would it help if he was? :confused:

When two-handed reporting is done, does the table have to read it backwards, or does the official have to report it backwards?

Reporting is done so the table reads the numbers the same way they read printed text, left to right. So officials use right hand for tens value and left hand for ones value.

Need An Abacus ???
 

I didn't know there was going to be any math on the Forum today. May I be excused?

It would take awhile to get used to it. As long as they don't let NBA numbers become legal. Of course, the Fed has about 3 years to fiddle with the compression sleeve rule before declaring them legal and having them conform to headband colors. So, it might be a waiting game.

Definitely not a natural process for me yet (kinda like sprinting backwards :D ) the times I've played around with it during college rule rec or intramural games. I still have to put thought into which number goes on which hand.

I think the referee should read it backwards.

I sometimes do two-hand reporting in men's leagues and when I do, I put my right hand up first as the most significant digit, and after a small pause, my left hand as the least significant digit.

One hand per NHFS and one can use two hand per NCAA Women's. But the two-hand mechanic is stupid and confusing.

MTD, Sr.

IMO, the two hand mechanic should only be used for 00, 11, 22, 33, 44, and 55. I think it would avoid any confusion with the scorer's table.

"Wait, was that 1, or 11? I couldn't hear what he said."

Just hold up two hands, with the same digit on either hand.

EDIT: I personally don't use the two hand reporting mechanic, and from what I understand, it's frowned upon in my area. If the mechanic did become acceptable, though, that's how I would employ it.

Disagree. How is it stupid to display both digits of a two-digit number at the same time? In the 2 years that I've been using 2-hand reporting exclusively for my college games, there has been zero confusion.

Neither stupid nor confusing. It takes a week to get used to, tops.

My understanding is that two hand reporting is REQUIRED in NCAA Women's and NCAA Men CAN use two.

NFHS is one hand and our assignor made it a point at our meeting tonight that with the playoffs coming up HS games call for HS mechanics. He added that those of you who use college mechanics in HS games should use HS mechanics in your college games and see how your assignors there like it. Only problem is I have worked games with the President of our Association where he's used two hand reporting.

Of the two main people who trained me in my early officiating career one was a former ABA guy who taught us many pro/college mechanics that are slowly trickling their way down. So I've been comfortable with two hand for a long time and it just feels better to me. And scorers have told me that it's easier to understand. I believe NCAAM went to optional two hand reporting two or three years ago and every year you see more and more of them using it.

It doesnt take very long to get used to and I would say the vast majority of people who have a choice will choose to go with two hands after they've tried it. I find that those who say it's stupid and confusing are those that haven't tried it, are wed to the idea of one hand reporting because that's how they've always done it, and/or those who are oppose to anything that comes from the NBA.

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