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OldCoach Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:44am

Double Foul on Same Team
 
So, while watching a women’s High School Varsity game last night in Northern California, a referee called a "Double Foul" on the same team on the same play, at the same time!!

Team A, player A1 goes up for a layup and players B1 and B2 both reach for the ball, resulting in a foul call. The referee, decided that both players fouled player A1 and called a double foul. Player B1 and B2 both recived the foul.

I have never seen this before and could not find it in the rule book. I do some refereeing once in a while and want to make sure I understand the unusual aspects of the game.

Is there really an actual call of double foul in this situation???

APG Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:48am

By rule it would be a multiple foul as both fouls were committed by the same team as approximately the same time. Double fouls are fouls committed by opponents against each other at approximately the same time.

berserkBBK Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:48am

Maybe he meant simultaneous foul. It's in there, but I've never seen anyone use it.

jTheUmp Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:48am

The correct term is "multiple foul": 4-19-11.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NFHS 4-19-11
A multiple foul is a situation in which two or more teammates commit personal fouls against the same opponent at approximately the same time.

In practice, most officials will "pick one" and call a single foul in this situation.

APG Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by berserkBBK (Post 821016)
Maybe he meant simultaneous foul. It's in there, but I've never seen anyone use it.

This would not be a simultaneous foul.

berserkBBK Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 821015)
By rule it would be a multiple foul as both fouls were committed by the same team as approximately the same time. Double fouls are fouls committed by opponents against each other at approximately the same time.

Ah right! Simultaneous is separate teams on separate individuals.

JetMetFan Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:52am

Multiple foul...
 
4-19-11

A multiple foul is a situation in which two or more teammates commit personal fouls against the same opponent at approximately the same time.


and

10-6-11...Penalties

6. Multiple Foul:
a. One free throw for each foul:
(1) No try involved.
(2) Successful or unsuccessful two-point try or tap.
(3) Successful three-point try or tap.

b. Two free throws for each foul:
(1) Intentional or flagrant foul.
(2) Unsuccessful three-point try or tap.

Plus ball for throw-in if intentional or flagrant.

NOTE: If one or both fouls of a multiple foul are flagrant, two free throws are awarded for each flagrant foul. Any player who commits a flagrant foul is disqualified.

Adam Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:54am

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldCoach (Post 821014)
So, while watching a women’s High School Varsity game last night in Northern California, a referee called a "Double Foul" on the same team on the same play, at the same time!!

Team A, player A1 goes up for a layup and players B1 and B2 both reach for the ball, resulting in a foul call. The referee, decided that both players fouled player A1 and called a double foul. Player B1 and B2 both recived the foul.

I have never seen this before and could not find it in the rule book. I do some refereeing once in a while and want to make sure I understand the unusual aspects of the game.

Is there really an actual call of double foul in this situation???

Probably the only time this gets called all year, nation wide.

doubleringer Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 821023)
Probably the only time this gets called all year, nation wide.

Is that a challenge? I am working tonight......:D

Adam Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleringer (Post 821025)
Is that a challenge? I am working tonight......:D

Let's call it a dare.

mbyron Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:24pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 821026)
Let's call it a dare.

So you're encouraging pioneerism?

Adam Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 821041)
So you're encouraging pioneerism?

For entertainment purposes.

berserkBBK Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:38pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleringer (Post 821025)
Is that a challenge? I am working tonight......:D

Please don't be one of my partners today.


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