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Lcubed48 Sat Feb 04, 2012 08:31am

Tell us what you really think?
 
I'm visiting my daughter, son-in-law, and the new grandson (our 1st ) in St Louis. We were at a big Walmart store out in Maplewood when I saw a rather tall young lad checking out in another line. He looked familar, but I couldn't place him. I rememebered this morning. His name is John Manning, and he's a freshman BB player at SLU. He played his HS ball at Chantilly HS in NVA. I reffed him a couple years at the D3 camp in Richmond. If memory serves, somewhere in my officiating archives there exixts a dvd with me working a game with the Chantilly varsity.
Yes, it's a small world. Here's what I found to be interesting. Check out Coach Rick's comment - John Manning Biography - SLUBillikens.com - The Official Athletics Website of Saint Louis University
Rick Majerus on John Manning
"...Sometimes aggressiveness is impeded by high school officiating ... "

Comments???

Adam Sat Feb 04, 2012 09:35am

Some very good coaches make the mistake of assuming their knowledge of coaching translates to officiating.

bainsey Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:13am

Three words: Consider the source.

7IronRef Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:35am

Yes, just dismiss the comments of a coach who knows more about the game than most of us here.

in many cases HS officials dont let players be as physical as they are allowed and are expected to be in college.

There is a lot more banging and there are more players similar in size so coaches need to develop their players and teach them to be more aggressive. Majerus is defensive minded and that requires being aggressive especially when rebounding.

We have all seen hs officials incorrectly penalize players for simply being tall. Not saying that this is how every game was called during his time in VA, but you know that as he was developing, so were many of the officials.

just another ref Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:39am

And a fast car is sometimes "impeded" by a motorcycle cop.

Adam Sat Feb 04, 2012 04:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7IronRef (Post 820189)
Yes, just dismiss the comments of a coach....

Works for me.

BktBallRef Sat Feb 04, 2012 05:47pm

Duh
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 7IronRef (Post 820189)
in many cases HS officials dont let players be as physical as they are allowed and are expected to be in college.

Nor should they. After all, it's HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL.

deecee Sat Feb 04, 2012 07:15pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 820190)
And a fast car is sometimes "impeded" by a motorcycle cop.

thanks for the chuckle

APG Sat Feb 04, 2012 07:56pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7IronRef (Post 820189)
Yes, just dismiss the comments of a coach who knows more about the game than most of us here.

He may know more about the X's and O's and other aspects as it relates to coaching but more than likely he doesn't know the officiating aspect of the game as well as I or many officials do. That's not to say I'd totally dismiss a coach's comments...rather I'd be measured in how much weight to put behind the comment.

Adam Sat Feb 04, 2012 08:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 820286)
He may know more about the X's and O's and other aspects as it relates to coaching but more than likely he doesn't know the officiating aspect of the game as well as I or many officials do. That's not to say I'd totally dismiss a coach's comments...rather I'd be measured in how much weight to put behind the comment.

Exactly. The college game is pretty different from the high school game; we also give a lot less leash to coaches in high school than college coaches get.


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