Oops, wrong basket
 

1:15ish remaining in a GV game. Team A is up 2 points and has the ball on the BC endline after a timeout. No defensive pressure. A1 inbounds to A2 who takes a dribble and attempts a layup at the wrong basket. The layup hits the backboard, rolls across the back of the rim, and A2 catches the ball on the other side of the lane. She immediately knew what had happened, so she starts a dribble in the correct direction. As this all happened a couple of defenders were rushing toward her, reaching her just as she starts her dribble. There is contact as she tries to split the defenders and the ball is knocked away.

What do you have?

An illegal dribble...

Not enough information is what I have. Is the contact illegal?

I know shes a hottie, but just how many times are you gonna let her begin her dribble :eek:

Thanks. That's what I had. I was confident I was correct, but ol' self-doubt started eating at me.

Needless to say there were some very confused coaches and upset fans. It didn't help that my call was a bit slow as my mind processed what was happening.

Plenty of information presented -- and it's all before the contact happened.

As I read it, she dribbled three times.

I focused on the wrong part of OP.

After re-reading it, I'm going to need to find a rules reference. The player didn't attempt a try cause it was at the wrong basket, so the team control is there. She then caught the ball again and started another dribble. Yeah sounds like an illegal dribble.

Rules reference to come.

9-5. none of the exceptions applied. Illegal dribble

I used Case 9.5b, but it didn't stop me from doubting myself.

I could've (should've) made the call when the ball hit the backboard, I believe.

There it is, 3 dribbles just as bob stated. You guys know the drill... always listen to bob!!

Fundamental 19 is the key here.

+1 -- and I think the same thing is in 4-Ball Location

So I should have stopped play when she collected the ball after the missed layup. Agree?

If A2 had not touched the ball again after it hit the backboard, no violation.

Yes, because it hit the backboard. If it only hit the rim, and she hadn't moved her pivot....

Agree.

That's a tough play to get right live. Nice work.

is there anywhere other than 9.5 I need to look to better understand this?

4-4-5

So am I to understand that in this situation...

A1 inboudns the ball to A2 near the corner of the end and side line. A2 under pressure attempts to pass the ball to A1 who is now standing under the basket. The ball stikes the side of the back board and comes back to A1.

A1 has now used his/her dribble?

Yes

Think you mean A2 gets the ball back.


Wouldn't A2 be able to continue his by batting the ball to the floor instead of catching it?

Using the language (or at least the concept) of the rule, let's change the question to " A2 throws the ball to the floor, then continues to bat the ball to the floor. Is that legal?"

I hope the answer is obvious.

It is and I was being rhetorical b/c APG answered 'yes' to the question of whether or not A2 had used his dribble. Whether A2 had used his dribble or was still dribbling depends on what A2 does when the ball returns to him.

I read that as the player catching the ball upon return. People usually don't ask if they've "used" their dribble unless they're holding the ball.