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Smitty Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:13am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 820606)
The word 'baseline' appears in 1-7-3. :)

I agree with your point, though.

Awesome. Even better! Can we put that ridiculous concern to bed now?

VaTerp Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:49am

I agree with sentiment expressed by a few in this thread. I don't get bothered in the least about specific mechanics or terminology as long as communication is clear. That's for assignors and supervisors to worry about.

Only thing that bothers me is when people put $#!* in the game or go fishing for things......e.g:

calling violations that aren't there, calling fouls on marginal contact that don't affect the play, asking if a sleeve is for medical reasons, calling a T for a pre-game tap of the rim that nobody else in the gym saw.

One other thing that bothers me is officials who turn their back to the court during FT administration to talk to coaches. I've seen this recently with some younger guys who are trying to work on being more approachable/communication skills. When a veteran does this it irritates to me.

Adam Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:56am

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Originally Posted by VaTerp (Post 820617)
I agree with sentiment expressed by a few in this thread. I don't get bothered in the least about specific mechanics or terminology as long as communication is clear. That's for assignors and supervisors to worry about.

Only thing that bothers me is when people put $#!* in the game or go fishing for things......e.g:

calling violations that aren't there, calling fouls on marginal contact that don't affect the play, asking if a sleeve is for medical reasons, calling a T for a pre-game tap of the rim that nobody else in the gym saw.

My only quibble is in red. It must be regional/local/state differences, but here we ask. No documentation is required, but we ask.

Rob1968 Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:01am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 820606)
The word 'baseline' appears in 1-7-3. :)

I agree with your point, though.

The smiley face is so appropriate, since "baseline" in 1-7-3 refers to the bottom border of the painted squareon the backboard and not to the endline on the floor . . .;)

Smitty Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:24am

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Originally Posted by Rob1968 (Post 820628)
The smiley face is so appropriate, since "baseline" in 1-7-3 refers to the bottom border of the painted squareon the backboard and not to the endline on the floor . . .;)

The horror of using that term in any other way then! How dare anyone! :rolleyes:

mbyron Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:28am

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Originally Posted by Rob1968 (Post 820628)
The smiley face is so appropriate, since "baseline" in 1-7-3 refers to the bottom border of the painted squareon the backboard and not to the endline on the floor . . .;)

Good! Just so.

ga314ref Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:31pm

Most of us...
 
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 820621)
My only quibble is in red. It must be regional/local/state differences, but here we ask. No documentation is required, but we ask.

...accept that as a given when we ask the coach are his players legally equipped.

Raymond Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:19pm

One thing I will comment to my crew about is when the C is leaking down court in transition when there is pressure in the backcourt. Especially when the ball still hasn't even been thrown in yet. What's the hurry? You're leaving the Trail to officiate 4-6 players as well as the throw-in.

One I see on TV by older college officials is the C walking up the court looking back at A1 bring up the ball against B1 who his only applying token pressure, even though the trail is right there on the play. Guess the Lead is supposed to take care of the 8 other players.

Duffman Tue Feb 07, 2012 08:23am

Ohhh, also ad when another official refers to throw ins as "out of boundses"... Plural.

Gee Charlie, wee sure had a lot of out of boundses tonight.

This particular official may have more problems though. WHen discussing pca regarding closely.guarded counts in the top of the key area he said "I don't mind sharing it, if we have two counts going on at once we have a better chance of getting it right"...

VaTerp Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:11am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 820621)
My only quibble is in red. It must be regional/local/state differences, but here we ask. No documentation is required, but we ask.

If that's the local rule/practice then one would be best to follow suit.

I'm just not in favor of asking what IMO, is a pointless question and encouraging kids to lie. Which is what I'd guess 90% of them are doing since it's a fashion/comfort thing not medical at all.

Around here, I've seen a few guys ask but see it less frequently than I did 3 years ago. When I see a guy walk over to a kid and say, "is that for medical reasons," it just seems to me that part of his focus is on the wrong things. And often, I find this plays out once the game begins as well.

But my real beef is with the Fed. I think they should just either allow the sleeves or not allow them. The medical reason bs is just that.

Adam Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:29am

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Originally Posted by VaTerp (Post 820981)
But my real beef is with the Fed. I think they should just either allow the sleeves or not allow them. The medical reason bs is just that.

I agree with this. I have noticed a lot more long sleeve undershirts this year.

Adam Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:29am

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Originally Posted by ga314ref (Post 820832)
...accept that as a given when we ask the coach are his players legally equipped.

Oh, you think the coaches actually take this question seriously?

Tio Tue Feb 07, 2012 03:10pm

My biggest pet peeve is when guys are on their phone from the time you pick them up to the game site. No effort to engage the crew or talk basketball. Often these car rides are the best "pregames" I have been part of.

Raymond Tue Feb 07, 2012 03:31pm

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Originally Posted by Tio (Post 821175)
My biggest pet peeve is when guys are on their phone from the time you pick them up to the game site. No effort to engage the crew or talk basketball. Often these car rides are the best "pregames" I have been part of.

Once had a Crew Chief who talked on his phone the entire time me and U1 were getting dressed. Then when it was getting close to time to head out he tries to rush through a pregame while he finishes getting dressed. Well the problem was that the U1 was deaf and needed to read the CC lips but that was impossible for him to do since the CC was not sitting still and often completely turning away from the U1.

Needless to say the first thing the CC did at halftime was check his phone.

26 Year Gap Tue Feb 07, 2012 05:40pm

[QUOTE=BadNewsRef;821202]Once had a Crew Chief who talked on his phone the entire time me and U1 were getting dressed. Then when it was getting close to time to head out he tries to rush through a pregame while he finishes getting dressed. Well the problem was that the U1 was deaf and needed to read the CC lips but that was impossible for him to do since the CC was not sitting still and often completely turning away from the U1.

Needless to say the first thing the CC did at halftime was check his phone.[/QUOTE]

Probably not the only calls he missed.

Bad Zebra Tue Feb 07, 2012 06:10pm

[QUOTE=26 Year Gap;821236]
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 821202)
Probably not the only calls he missed.

Hah! Good one.

26 Year Gap Tue Feb 07, 2012 06:28pm

Had this guy...okay, he was THAT GUY...up in VT who was ALWAYS doing this kind of crap. One time, yes-he was late because it was his m.o.--as we are running out to the court, he STOPS IN THE TRAINER'S OFFICE TO USE HER PHONE TO MAKE A QUICK CALL!!!! Thankfully, the powers that be finally yanked his schedule and I think he may be doing wreck ball.

BillyMac Tue Feb 07, 2012 07:14pm

Probably Talking To His Mom ...
 
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 821202)
Once had a Crew Chief who talked on his phone the entire time me and U1 were getting dressed. Needless to say the first thing the CC did at halftime was check his phone.

Had to be Tim Donaghy.

JerryLundagard Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:05pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 821202)
Once had a Crew Chief who talked on his phone the entire time me and U1 were getting dressed. Then when it was getting close to time to head out he tries to rush through a pregame while he finishes getting dressed. Well the problem was that the U1 was deaf and needed to read the CC lips but that was impossible for him to do since the CC was not sitting still and often completely turning away from the U1.

Needless to say the first thing the CC did at halftime was check his phone.

Surprised it took so long for this one to come up. I have had this happen a handful of times this season and I absolutely hate it when guys get on their cell phones at halftime. Unless you're a surgeon or your wife is pregnant do you really need to check your phone at halftime.

Rich Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:21am

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Originally Posted by JerryLundagard (Post 821327)
Surprised it took so long for this one to come up. I have had this happen a handful of times this season and I absolutely hate it when guys get on their cell phones at halftime. Unless you're a surgeon or your wife is pregnant do you really need to check your phone at halftime.

I'm attached to my iPhone, but I lock mine in the car during games along with my wallet. Even in the nicest school there could be thieves.

BillyMac Wed Feb 08, 2012 07:13am

Double Jeopardy ???
 
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Originally Posted by JerryLundagard (Post 821327)
Unless you're a surgeon or your wife is pregnant do you really need to check your phone at halftime.

What if you're a pregnant surgeon?

Adam Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:11am

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Originally Posted by JerryLundagard (Post 821327)
Surprised it took so long for this one to come up. I have had this happen a handful of times this season and I absolutely hate it when guys get on their cell phones at halftime. Unless you're a surgeon or your wife is pregnant do you really need to check your phone at halftime.

The only time I ever touch my phone at HT is if I had plans with my wife and the game has taken longer than expected. Even then, we've learned to just not make plans because games just take longer than expected.

Like last night's F/JV G double header that took nearly 4 1/2 hours, easily over 100 fouls (2 intentional), 3 OTs. Game started at 4:00, I got home at 9:15.


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